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>>>I THINK IT’S A WEAKNESS NOT>>>I THINK IT’S A WEAKNESS NOT TO APOLOGIZE. TO APOLOGIZE. I’VE HELPED — I’VE HELPED I’VE HELPED — I’VE HELPED CREATE TRUMP, THERE’S NO DOUBT CREATE TRUMP, THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. ABOUT THAT. THE PERSONAL UGLY POLITICS, I THE PERSONAL UGLY POLITICS, I REGRET THAT AND I’M SORRY FOR REGRET THAT AND I’M SORRY FOR THAT. THAT. AND NOW WE’VE GOT A GUY IN THE AND NOW WE’VE GOT A GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE, GEORGE, THAT’S ALL WHITE HOUSE, GEORGE, THAT’S ALL HE DOES. HE DOES.>>THAT WAS FORMER GOP>>THAT WAS FORMER GOP CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH, WHO IS CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH, WHO IS TESTING THE POWER OF AN APOLOGY TESTING THE POWER OF AN APOLOGY THERE. THERE. HE’S COUNTING ON FORGIVENESS HE’S COUNTING ON FORGIVENESS FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO VIEW FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO VIEW BEATING TRUMP AS MORE IMPORTANT BEATING TRUMP AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. WALSH ANNOUNCED OVER THE WEEKEND WALSH ANNOUNCED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT HE’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THAT HE’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT ON A SINGLE CORE MESSAGE, THAT ON A SINGLE CORE MESSAGE, THAT DONALD TRUMP IS UNFIT FOR THE DONALD TRUMP IS UNFIT FOR THE OFFICE HE HOLDS. OFFICE HE HOLDS. IT’S AN ARGUMENT MADE BY JUST IT’S AN ARGUMENT MADE BY JUST ONE OTHER EE LENGTLECTED OFFICIA ONE OTHER EE LENGTLECTED OFFICIA CAN COUNT. CAN COUNT. WHEN HE WAS IN THE SENATE, BOB WHEN HE WAS IN THE SENATE, BOB CORKER OF TENNESSEE SAID TRUMP CORKER OF TENNESSEE SAID TRUMP DID NOT DISPLAY THE CONFIDENCE DID NOT DISPLAY THE CONFIDENCE THE WEST WING REQUIRED. THE WEST WING REQUIRED. CORKER RETIRED IN 2018. CORKER RETIRED IN 2018. TRUMP’S ERRATIC BEHAVIOR IS NOW TRUMP’S ERRATIC BEHAVIOR IS NOW WELL DOCUMENTED. WELL DOCUMENTED. BUT NOT ONE OF THE NEARLY TWO BUT NOT ONE OF THE NEARLY TWO DOZEN DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR DOZEN DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT HAS MADE TRUMP’S PRESIDENT HAS MADE TRUMP’S FITNESS A CENTRAL MESSAGE IN THE FITNESS A CENTRAL MESSAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN. CAMPAIGN. ENTER JOE WALSH. ENTER JOE WALSH.>>WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE WHITE>>WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO WE ALL KNOW IS UNFIT, HOUSE WHO WE ALL KNOW IS UNFIT, SOMEONE WHO LIES VIRTUALLY EVERY SOMEONE WHO LIES VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH, SOMEONE TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH, SOMEONE WHO PLACES HIS OWN INTERESTS WHO PLACES HIS OWN INTERESTS ABOVE THE NATION’S INTERESTS AT ABOVE THE NATION’S INTERESTS AT EVERY SINGLE TURN. EVERY SINGLE TURN. WE CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS WE CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP, NO WAY. OF DONALD TRUMP, NO WAY.>>JOINING US NOW FORMER>>JOINING US NOW FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN JOE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH. WALSH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.>>GOOD TO BE HERE, NICOLLE.>>GOOD TO BE HERE, NICOLLE.>>I STARTED WITH THE APOLOGY>>I STARTED WITH THE APOLOGY BECAUSE I THINK FOR A LOT OF BECAUSE I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, I THINK THAT’S YOUR ONLY PEOPLE, I THINK THAT’S YOUR ONLY WAY IN. WAY IN.>>YES.>>YES.>>I THINK IT’S ATONING FOR SOME>>I THINK IT’S ATONING FOR SOME OF THE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE OF THE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH IT. INCONSISTENT WITH IT. SO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SPIRIT SO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SPIRIT IN WHICH DISPARAGING COMMENTS IN WHICH DISPARAGING COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA, WERE MADE ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA, MUSLIM MEN. MUSLIM MEN.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. WE WERE DIVIDED BEFORE TRUMP AND WE WERE DIVIDED BEFORE TRUMP AND YOU CAN ARGUE IT GOT DIVIDED. YOU CAN ARGUE IT GOT DIVIDED. I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF AND I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF AND PERSONAL A LOT. PERSONAL A LOT. I WANTED TO FIGHT ABOUT POLICY I WANTED TO FIGHT ABOUT POLICY AND IDEAS AND I GOT PERSONAL AND AND IDEAS AND I GOT PERSONAL AND HATEFUL ABOUT BARACK OBAMA HATEFUL ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE I GOT SO INTO THE FIGHT. BECAUSE I GOT SO INTO THE FIGHT. IT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER TRUMP IT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER TRUMP GOT ELECTED THAT THE DEMONIZING GOT ELECTED THAT THE DEMONIZING I DID OF PEOPLE LED TO HIM, I DID OF PEOPLE LED TO HIM, BECAUSE THAT’S ALL HE DOES. BECAUSE THAT’S ALL HE DOES. IT’S PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST IT’S PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT THING I’VE EVER SAID, DIFFICULT THING I’VE EVER SAID, TO APOLOGIZE FOR VOTING FOR HIM TO APOLOGIZE FOR VOTING FOR HIM AND TO APOLOGIZE FOR CREATING AND TO APOLOGIZE FOR CREATING HIM. HIM. NICOLLE, I DON’T WANT TO GIVE NICOLLE, I DON’T WANT TO GIVE MYSELF TOO MUCH CREDIT BUT I MYSELF TOO MUCH CREDIT BUT I THINK I CREATED HIM BECAUSE I THINK I CREATED HIM BECAUSE I ENGAGED TOO MUCH IN HIS PERSONAL ENGAGED TOO MUCH IN HIS PERSONAL DEMONIZATION. DEMONIZATION. MAN, THAT GUY LIVES ON THAT BS. MAN, THAT GUY LIVES ON THAT BS.>>I GUESS I WANT TO NAIL DOWN>>I GUESS I WANT TO NAIL DOWN WHEN HE LOST YOU. WHEN HE LOST YOU. FOR ME WHEN HE CAME DOWN THE FOR ME WHEN HE CAME DOWN THE STAIRS AND CALLED ALL MEXICANS STAIRS AND CALLED ALL MEXICANS RAPISTS AND MURDERS AND TALKED RAPISTS AND MURDERS AND TALKED ABOUT MEGYN KELLY — I WAS NEVER ABOUT MEGYN KELLY — I WAS NEVER AVAILABLE TO HIM AS A REPORTER AVAILABLE TO HIM AS A REPORTER WHO WORKED FOR THE BUSH FAMILY. WHO WORKED FOR THE BUSH FAMILY. WHY WERE YOU EVEN AVAILABLE TO WHY WERE YOU EVEN AVAILABLE TO HIM TO BEGIN WITH? HIM TO BEGIN WITH?>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION.>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION. I SUPPORTED RAND PAUL IN THE I SUPPORTED RAND PAUL IN THE PRIMARY. PRIMARY. ONCE WON THE GENERAL I SUPPORTED ONCE WON THE GENERAL I SUPPORTED HIM BECAUSE I DIDN’T LIKE HIM BECAUSE I DIDN’T LIKE HILLARY. HILLARY. I DIDN’T LIKE TRUMP BUT HE I DIDN’T LIKE TRUMP BUT HE WASN’T HILLARY. WASN’T HILLARY. WHEN HE GOT ELECTED I TRIED TO WHEN HE GOT ELECTED I TRIED TO DO THE GOOD TRUMP/BAD TRUMP DO THE GOOD TRUMP/BAD TRUMP THING. THING. GIVE HIM A PAT ON THE BACK WHEN GIVE HIM A PAT ON THE BACK WHEN HE DID SOMETHING GOOD, ATTACK HE DID SOMETHING GOOD, ATTACK HIM WHEN HE DID SOMETHING BAD. HIM WHEN HE DID SOMETHING BAD. I’M ON CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW I’M ON CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW RADIO, ALL THEY WANT TO HEAR IS RADIO, ALL THEY WANT TO HEAR IS THE SEANTY BAD HANNITY BAD. THE SEANTY BAD HANNITY BAD. THE GUY WALKS ON WATER. THE GUY WALKS ON WATER. TO BE HONEST, I DIDN’T PAY THAT TO BE HONEST, I DIDN’T PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO HIM. MUCH ATTENTION TO HIM. I THOUGHT HE WOULD MAKE A FEW I THOUGHT HE WOULD MAKE A FEW JOKES AND THAT WAS IT. JOKES AND THAT WAS IT. BUT EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS BUT EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH AND HE LIED AND HE LOST ME MOUTH AND HE LIED AND HE LOST ME FOR SURE AT HELSINKI WHEN HE FOR SURE AT HELSINKI WHEN HE STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AND STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AND SAID I’M WITH PUTIN, HE’S MY SAID I’M WITH PUTIN, HE’S MY FRIEND, I DON’T LIKE MY FRIEND, I DON’T LIKE MY INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS IT AND I HAVE NEVER, THAT WAS IT AND I HAVE NEVER, EVER GONE BACK. EVER GONE BACK.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BEST>>WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY, BECAUSE AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY, BECAUSE THE IDEA OF HIS FITNESS — THE IDEA OF HIS FITNESS –>>HE’S NUTS.>>HE’S NUTS. NUTS. NUTS.>>THE TRUTH IS THAT WHETHER>>THE TRUTH IS THAT WHETHER PEOPLE SAY IT DISPARAGINGLY OR PEOPLE SAY IT DISPARAGINGLY OR AFFECTIONATELY, ANYONE WHO COMES AFFECTIONATELY, ANYONE WHO COMES IN CONTACT WITH HIM COMES AWAY IN CONTACT WITH HIM COMES AWAY SAYING HE’S CRAZY BUT THIS IS A SAYING HE’S CRAZY BUT THIS IS A HARD STORY TO COVER AND HARD HARD STORY TO COVER AND HARD ATTACK TO MAKE. ATTACK TO MAKE. WHAT ARE SORT OF YOUR PROOF WHAT ARE SORT OF YOUR PROOF POINTS? POINTS?>>HE’S A PSYCHOPATH, HE LIES>>HE’S A PSYCHOPATH, HE LIES EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH, EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH, HE’S THE BIG OF THE NARCISSIST HE’S THE BIG OF THE NARCISSIST WE EVER HAD IN THAT OFFICE AND WE EVER HAD IN THAT OFFICE AND THAT’S SAYING A LOT, JOHN. THAT’S SAYING A LOT, JOHN. AT EVERY TURN, NICOLLE, HE’S PUT AT EVERY TURN, NICOLLE, HE’S PUT HIS OWN INTEREST AHEAD OF THE HIS OWN INTEREST AHEAD OF THE COUNTRY’S INTEREST. COUNTRY’S INTEREST. LIKE A 5-YEAR-OLD CHILD HE DID LIKE A 5-YEAR-OLD CHILD HE DID NOT WANT WHAT RUSSIA DID TO COME NOT WANT WHAT RUSSIA DID TO COME OUT SO NOTHING TOOK AWAY FROM OUT SO NOTHING TOOK AWAY FROM HIS ELECTION. HIS ELECTION. HE’S DONE THAT AT EVERY TURN. HE’S DONE THAT AT EVERY TURN. WE WERE ATTACKED. WE WERE ATTACKED. MAYBE I’M NAIVE, I ONLY SERVED MAYBE I’M NAIVE, I ONLY SERVED TWO YEARS IN CONGRESS, BUT I TWO YEARS IN CONGRESS, BUT I CAN’T BELIEVE A BIGGER CAN’T BELIEVE A BIGGER REPUBLICAN HASN’T STEPPED UP REPUBLICAN HASN’T STEPPED UP THIS YEAR TO SAY IT. THIS YEAR TO SAY IT. I THINK, JOHN, YOU SAID IT LAST I THINK, JOHN, YOU SAID IT LAST SEGMENT, THIS GUY IS A CLEAR AND SEGMENT, THIS GUY IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. PRESENT DANGER. NICOLLE, MAYBE I’M A FLAWED NICOLLE, MAYBE I’M A FLAWED CANDIDATE, I PROBABLY AM, BUT MY CANDIDATE, I PROBABLY AM, BUT MY GOD, NO ONE ELSE HAS STOOD UP. GOD, NO ONE ELSE HAS STOOD UP. THIS IS MADNESS THAT ANYBODY IS THIS IS MADNESS THAT ANYBODY IS EVEN THINKING OF KEEPING THAT EVEN THINKING OF KEEPING THAT CHILD IN THE WHITE HOUSE. CHILD IN THE WHITE HOUSE.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK IT SAYS>>WHAT DO YOU THINK IT SAYS THOUGH THAT 85% OF REPUBLICANS THOUGH THAT 85% OF REPUBLICANS STILL APPROVE OF THE JOB HE’S STILL APPROVE OF THE JOB HE’S DOING? DOING?>>I THINK HIS APPROVAL IS SOFT.>>I THINK HIS APPROVAL IS SOFT. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE. ALTERNATIVE. A LOT OF THE POLLING ALSO SHOWS A LOT OF THE POLLING ALSO SHOWS 50-SOME PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS 50-SOME PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CHALLENGER. WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CHALLENGER. THERE ARE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THERE ARE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO LEFT THE PARTY, YOU KNOW WHO LEFT THE PARTY, YOU KNOW THAT. THAT. WE NEED TO BRING THEM BACK. WE NEED TO BRING THEM BACK. THE SLOGAN OF OUR CAMPAIGN IS BE THE SLOGAN OF OUR CAMPAIGN IS BE BRAVE. BRAVE. MAN YOU GOT TO BE NUTS OR BE MAN YOU GOT TO BE NUTS OR BE BRAVE TO DO WHAT I’M DOING. BRAVE TO DO WHAT I’M DOING. NICOLLE, IT’S A SERIOUS SLOGAN NICOLLE, IT’S A SERIOUS SLOGAN IN THAT I BELIEVE MOST EVERY IN THAT I BELIEVE MOST EVERY REPUBLICAN PRIVATELY BELIEVES REPUBLICAN PRIVATELY BELIEVES WHAT I’M SAYING PUBLICLY. WHAT I’M SAYING PUBLICLY. THEY’RE AFRAID TO SAY IT. THEY’RE AFRAID TO SAY IT. I KNOW MY FORMER COLLEAGUES FEEL I KNOW MY FORMER COLLEAGUES FEEL THAT WAY. THAT WAY. WE WANT THEM TO BE BRAVE. WE WANT THEM TO BE BRAVE.>>BOB CORKER SAID IT, AND HE>>BOB CORKER SAID IT, AND HE SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND DEVELOPED CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS DEVELOPED CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEN SECRETARY OF STATE REX WITH THEN SECRETARY OF STATE REX TILLERSON. TILLERSON. HE ACTUALLY HELD HEARINGS TO TRY HE ACTUALLY HELD HEARINGS TO TRY TO LIMIT DONALD TRUMP’S NUCLEAR TO LIMIT DONALD TRUMP’S NUCLEAR AUTHORITY, FIRST TIME IN AUTHORITY, FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY I THINK A AMERICAN HISTORY I THINK A REPUBLICAN SENATOR WENT IN AND REPUBLICAN SENATOR WENT IN AND TRIED TO STRIP NUCLEAR AUTHORITY TRIED TO STRIP NUCLEAR AUTHORITY FROM A KEY EXECUTIVE. FROM A KEY EXECUTIVE. WHY DO YOU THINK MORE WHY DO YOU THINK MORE REPUBLICANS AREN’T WILLING TO DO REPUBLICANS AREN’T WILLING TO DO WHAT BOB CORKER DID, ATRADE TO WHAT BOB CORKER DID, ATRADE TO DO SOMETHING AND SAY SOMETHING? DO SOMETHING AND SAY SOMETHING? SOMEWHERE THEY’RE AFRAID. SOMEWHERE THEY’RE AFRAID.>>OF A TWEET?>>OF A TWEET?>>MEAN TWEET, PRIMARY>>MEAN TWEET, PRIMARY CHALLENGER AND I’M NOT GETTING CHALLENGER AND I’M NOT GETTING RE-ELECTED AND THAT’S PALPABLE RE-ELECTED AND THAT’S PALPABLE IN THE MEMBERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO, IN THE MEMBERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO, NICOLLE. NICOLLE. THEY ALSO MADE A BET, AND THIS THEY ALSO MADE A BET, AND THIS IS DISAPPOINTING, THEY THINK IS DISAPPOINTING, THEY THINK TRUMP WILL LOSE IN 2020, ALL OF TRUMP WILL LOSE IN 2020, ALL OF THESE REPUBLICANS. THESE REPUBLICANS. THEY WANT HIM TO LOSE. THEY WANT HIM TO LOSE. THEY SAY WE WILL HANG ON FOR TWO THEY SAY WE WILL HANG ON FOR TWO YEARS AND HE’S GONE AND YEARS AND HE’S GONE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE BACK IN EVERYTHING WILL BE BACK IN NORMAL. NORMAL.>>THEY HAVE GORSUCH AND>>THEY HAVE GORSUCH AND KAVANAUGH. KAVANAUGH.>>BE ITIT WILL NOT BE DONE.>>BE ITIT WILL NOT BE DONE. MANY HATE THE REPUBLICAN BRAND MANY HATE THE REPUBLICAN BRAND BECAUSE OF TRUMP. BECAUSE OF TRUMP.>>SO MANY DISSOCIATIVE>>SO MANY DISSOCIATIVE SITUATION WHEN I WORKED FOR THE SITUATION WHEN I WORKED FOR THE BUSH CAMPAIGN WERE COMMENTS BUSH CAMPAIGN WERE COMMENTS AROUND RACE, YOUR MANNER AROUND RACE, YOUR MANNER SUGGESTS YOU’RE SENSITIVE TO SUGGESTS YOU’RE SENSITIVE TO RACE. RACE. HOW DO YOU HELP HEAL IN A LOT OF HOW DO YOU HELP HEAL IN A LOT OF PEOPLE’S VIEWS THE MOST PEOPLE’S VIEWS THE MOST DANGEROUS PART OF TRUMPISM? DANGEROUS PART OF TRUMPISM?>>I’M OBSESSED WITH RACE.>>I’M OBSESSED WITH RACE. I’M PRETTY OUTSPOKEN. I’M PRETTY OUTSPOKEN. I PUSH THE ENVELOPE. I PUSH THE ENVELOPE. I HAVE A PODCAST WITH A BLACK I HAVE A PODCAST WITH A BLACK RADIO HOST IN CHICAGO AND WE RADIO HOST IN CHICAGO AND WE TALK ABOUT RACISM. TALK ABOUT RACISM. I THINK AMERICA IS AFRAID TO I THINK AMERICA IS AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE. TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE. SOMETIMES I PUSH THE ENVELOPE SOMETIMES I PUSH THE ENVELOPE TOO FAR, AND I HAVE, BUT I AM SO TOO FAR, AND I HAVE, BUT I AM SO EXCITED TO LEAD A DIALOGUE ON EXCITED TO LEAD A DIALOGUE ON THAT, ON THE ISSUE OF RACE. THAT, ON THE ISSUE OF RACE. I WORK WITH A BLACK PASTOR ON I WORK WITH A BLACK PASTOR ON CHICAGO’S SOUTH SIDE, THERE’S AN CHICAGO’S SOUTH SIDE, THERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR REPUBLICANS OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR REPUBLICANS TO GET BLACK VOTES U. BUT, BUT N TO GET BLACK VOTES U. BUT, BUT N THIS GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THIS GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE.>>WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET>>WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET FARTHER THAN THE 16 REPUBLICANS FARTHER THAN THE 16 REPUBLICANS DID THAT RAN AGAINST HIM? DID THAT RAN AGAINST HIM?>>BECAUSE I’M GOING TO HIT>>BECAUSE I’M GOING TO HIT DONALD TRUMP, I’M GOING TO PUNCH DONALD TRUMP, I’M GOING TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE EVERY SINGLE HIM IN THE FACE EVERY SINGLE DAY. DAY.>>ON TV?>>ON TV?>>ON TV, RADIO, I’M GOING>>ON TV, RADIO, I’M GOING EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE.>>IF IT DOESN’T WORK OUT, WILL>>IF IT DOESN’T WORK OUT, WILL YOU VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT? YOU VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT?>>I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR DONALD>>I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP AGAIN. TRUMP AGAIN.>>WILL YOU VOTE FOR THE>>WILL YOU VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT? DEMOCRAT?>>I DON’T KNOW, THAT’S THE BEST>>I DON’T KNOW, THAT’S THE BEST HONEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU. HONEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU. I DON’T THINK SO. I DON’T THINK SO.>>IF YOU THINK HE’S MENTALLY>>IF YOU THINK HE’S MENTALLY UNFIT. UNFIT. I SAID MONTHS AGO I WOULD VOTE I SAID MONTHS AGO I WOULD VOTE FOR ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES, I FOR ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES, I WOULD VOTE FOR THEIR AUTOMOBILE. WOULD VOTE FOR THEIR AUTOMOBILE. I THINK THE MOST INTELLECTUALLY I THINK THE MOST INTELLECTUALLY HONEST THING TO DO, AND I HONEST THING TO DO, AND I BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU’RE BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU’RE SAYING, IS TO SAY THE BEST SAYING, IS TO SAY THE BEST PERSON TO BEAT HIM WILL BE THE PERSON TO BEAT HIM WILL BE THE NOMINEE OF THE OTHER MAJOR PARTY NOMINEE OF THE OTHER MAJOR PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY. IN THIS COUNTRY. SO I’M GOING TO TRY TO TAKE DOWN SO I’M GOING TO TRY TO TAKE DOWN HIS NUMBERS. HIS NUMBERS. THIS IS A POLITICAL STRATEGIST THIS IS A POLITICAL STRATEGIST THINKING, I’M GOING TO TRY TO THINKING, I’M GOING TO TRY TO PULL DOWN HIS NUMBERS, RAISE PULL DOWN HIS NUMBERS, RAISE ATTENTION AROUND HIS FITNESS, ATTENTION AROUND HIS FITNESS, FIND A FEW CATS AND DOGS, MAYBE FIND A FEW CATS AND DOGS, MAYBE STICK CORKER IN A BUS AND DRIVE STICK CORKER IN A BUS AND DRIVE AROUND IOWA, ONLY A HANDFUL OF AROUND IOWA, ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE MADE THIS ARGUMENT BUT IF PEOPLE MADE THIS ARGUMENT BUT IF IT DOESN’T WORK OUT I WILL THROW IT DOESN’T WORK OUT I WILL THROW MY WEIGHT AND VOTE AND SUPPORT MY WEIGHT AND VOTE AND SUPPORT AND LISTENERS BEHIND THE AND LISTENERS BEHIND THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.>>TRUMP CAN’T WIN.>>TRUMP CAN’T WIN.>>IS THAT A YES?>>IS THAT A YES?>>NICOLLE, IT’S GRAB MY HAND, I>>NICOLLE, IT’S GRAB MY HAND, I COULD BE BROUGHT THERE. COULD BE BROUGHT THERE. I’M A TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE. I’M A TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE. THE DEMOCRATS’ IDEAS, MANY SCARE THE DEMOCRATS’ IDEAS, MANY SCARE ME. ME.>>IF YOU BELIEVE IT’S AN>>IF YOU BELIEVE IT’S AN EMERGENCY, PAY MORE IN TAXES TO EMERGENCY, PAY MORE IN TAXES TO GET RID OF THE CRAZY. GET RID OF THE CRAZY. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST THAT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST INTELLECTUAL HONEST PLACE TO GO INTELLECTUAL HONEST PLACE TO GO IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY. IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY.>>I’M ALMOST THERE.>>I’M ALMOST THERE. I AM. I AM. BECAUSE THAT’S THE FIGHT. BECAUSE THAT’S THE FIGHT. AND THAT’S A BETTER FIGHT. AND THAT’S A BETTER FIGHT. I WOULD RATHER SIT DOWN AT THE I WOULD RATHER SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE WITH ELIZABETH WARREN AND TABLE WITH ELIZABETH WARREN AND TALK ABOUT FREE COLLEGE TUITION. TALK ABOUT FREE COLLEGE TUITION. THIS GUY IS DESTROYING THE THIS GUY IS DESTROYING THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. I AGREE WITH YOU. I AGREE WITH YOU. I CAN BE BROUGHT THERE. I CAN BE BROUGHT THERE.>>CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO COME>>CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE TOPIC NICOLLE RAISED BACK TO THE TOPIC NICOLLE RAISED A SECOND AGO AND FOCUS ON A A SECOND AGO AND FOCUS ON A LITTLE MORE. LITTLE MORE. YOU KNOW, YOU’VE APOLOGIZED FOR YOU KNOW, YOU’VE APOLOGIZED FOR HELPING TO SPAWN TRUMP, YOU HELPING TO SPAWN TRUMP, YOU APOLOGIZED FOR GOING TOO FAR. APOLOGIZED FOR GOING TOO FAR. LOOK, WHAT NICOLLE SAID I THINK LOOK, WHAT NICOLLE SAID I THINK IS TRUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE IS TRUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE PRESIDENT IS STONE-COLD RACIST PRESIDENT IS STONE-COLD RACIST AND SO ARE YOU. AND SO ARE YOU. I CAN SIT HERE AND READ OFF I CAN SIT HERE AND READ OFF TWEETS, BARACK OBAMA IS A TWEETS, BARACK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, BARACK OBAMA’S BORN IN MUSLIM, BARACK OBAMA’S BORN IN KENYA. KENYA. I HAVE TWEETS USING THE N-WORD I HAVE TWEETS USING THE N-WORD NOT THAT LONG AGO AND FOR A LOT NOT THAT LONG AGO AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THE NOTION THAT OF PEOPLE THE NOTION THAT ANYBODY WHO IS EXHIBITED — YOU ANYBODY WHO IS EXHIBITED — YOU CAN APOLOGIZE FOR VARIOUS CAN APOLOGIZE FOR VARIOUS THINGS, APOLOGIZING FOR BURPING THINGS, APOLOGIZING FOR BURPING AT THE TABLE OR USING THE WRONG AT THE TABLE OR USING THE WRONG FORK WITH YOUR MAIN COURSE IS FORK WITH YOUR MAIN COURSE IS DIFFERENT FROM OFFERING SOME DIFFERENT FROM OFFERING SOME KIND OF GENUINE RECOGNITION THAT KIND OF GENUINE RECOGNITION THAT NOT JUST I SAID THINGS THAT ARE NOT JUST I SAID THINGS THAT ARE OFFENSIVE BUT I’M A RACIST. OFFENSIVE BUT I’M A RACIST. I HAVE SAID RACIST STUFF. I HAVE SAID RACIST STUFF. THERE’S NO WAY SOMEONE WHO THERE’S NO WAY SOMEONE WHO HAS — TO MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAS — TO MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS LOOKS LIKE AS MUCH OF A RACIST LOOKS LIKE AS MUCH OF A RACIST AS DONALD TRUMP HAS THE MORAL AS DONALD TRUMP HAS THE MORAL STANDING TO CHALLENGE DONALD STANDING TO CHALLENGE DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP.>>YEAH, AND I WOULDN’T CALL>>YEAH, AND I WOULDN’T CALL MYSELF A RACIST BUT I WOULD SAY, MYSELF A RACIST BUT I WOULD SAY, JOHN, I’VE SAID RACIST THINGS ON JOHN, I’VE SAID RACIST THINGS ON TWITTER. TWITTER. THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND AN APOLOGY IS NOT ENOUGH. AND AN APOLOGY IS NOT ENOUGH. WHEN I SAID BARACK OBAMA WAS A WHEN I SAID BARACK OBAMA WAS A MUSLIM, THAT WAS A HORRIBLE MUSLIM, THAT WAS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY. THING TO SAY. AND I SAID IT BECAUSE I WAS SO AND I SAID IT BECAUSE I WAS SO DISGUSTED WITH OBAMA’S POLICY DISGUSTED WITH OBAMA’S POLICY TOWARDS ISRAEL, THAT I WENT A TOWARDS ISRAEL, THAT I WENT A BAD, UGLY STEP. BAD, UGLY STEP. THE SANDY HOOK MOMS, I TOOK A THE SANDY HOOK MOMS, I TOOK A CHEAP SHOT AGAINST THEM THREE CHEAP SHOT AGAINST THEM THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY WERE YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY WERE SUING GUN MANUFACTURERS, AN SUING GUN MANUFACTURERS, AN ISSUE I DISAGREE WITH. ISSUE I DISAGREE WITH. SO I TOOK A BAD, CHEAP SHOT SO I TOOK A BAD, CHEAP SHOT AGAINST THEM. AGAINST THEM. I’VE DONE THAT. I’VE DONE THAT. BUT, JOHN, AGAIN CONTEXT, I BUT, JOHN, AGAIN CONTEXT, I PROBABLY SENT OUT 40,000 TWEETS PROBABLY SENT OUT 40,000 TWEETS IN THE LAST SIX YEARS, NO IN THE LAST SIX YEARS, NO EXCUSE, YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN EXCUSE, YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN AND FIND 200 TO 300 YOU WOULD AND FIND 200 TO 300 YOU WOULD SAY WALSH, WHAT WERE YOU SAY WALSH, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? THINKING? ALL I CAN DO IS OWN THEM AND ALL I CAN DO IS OWN THEM AND EXPLAIN THEM AND APOLOGIZE AS EXPLAIN THEM AND APOLOGIZE AS SINCERELY AS I CAN FOR THOSE SINCERELY AS I CAN FOR THOSE THAT DESERVE AN APOLOGY. THAT DESERVE AN APOLOGY.>>I WILL JUST ADD YOU HAVE A>>I WILL JUST ADD YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO TRY TO MAKE LOT OF WORK TO DO TO TRY TO MAKE A DISTINCTION PEOPLE I’M NOT A A DISTINCTION PEOPLE I’M NOT A RACIST BUT I SAID A LOT OF RACIST BUT I SAID A LOT OF RACIST STUFF IN PUBLIC. RACIST STUFF IN PUBLIC.>>THAT’S NOT FAIR BECAUSE WE>>THAT’S NOT FAIR BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORT SHOW. HAVE A SHORT SHOW. YOU SAID I SAID THE N-WORD IN A YOU SAID I SAID THE N-WORD IN A TWEET ANDY TO MAKE A POINT. TWEET ANDY TO MAKE A POINT. THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE NAME THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS SO OF THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS SO THEY SAID REDSKINS WAS THE NEW THEY SAID REDSKINS WAS THE NEW N-WORD. N-WORD. THAT’S BS. THAT’S BS. THE REDSKINS DOESN’T EQUATE WITH THE REDSKINS DOESN’T EQUATE WITH THE N-WORD. THE N-WORD. THAT HAS AN UGLY HISTORY. THAT HAS AN UGLY HISTORY. TO MAKE THE POINT I WROTE DOWN TO MAKE THE POINT I WROTE DOWN THE N-WORD IN A TWEET. THE N-WORD IN A TWEET. TO MAKE THE POINT IT’S NOT TO MAKE THE POINT IT’S NOT NEARLY WHAT THE WORD REDSKINS NEARLY WHAT THE WORD REDSKINS IS. IS.>>YOU GET THE COMBINATION OF>>YOU GET THE COMBINATION OF CALLING THE PRESIDENT MUSLIM AND CALLING THE PRESIDENT MUSLIM AND BORN IN KENYA, ET CETERA, ET BORN IN KENYA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THIS PAINTS A PICTURE CETERA, THIS PAINTS A PICTURE THAT MAKES PEOPLE DOUBT YOUR THAT MAKES PEOPLE DOUBT YOUR MORAL STANDING TO TAKE ON MORAL STANDING TO TAKE ON SOMEONE’S WHO’S PRIMARY IS SOMEONE’S WHO’S PRIMARY IS RACISM. RACISM.>>JOHN, MAYBE YOU AND I>>JOHN, MAYBE YOU AND I DISAGREE WITH THIS AND I NEVER DISAGREE WITH THIS AND I NEVER GOT INTO THE BIRTHER STUFF. GOT INTO THE BIRTHER STUFF. I SAID OBAMA IS MUSLIM AND I I SAID OBAMA IS MUSLIM AND I WILL GET DOWN ON MY KNEES. WILL GET DOWN ON MY KNEES. I DON’T THINK TRUMP IS A RACIST. I DON’T THINK TRUMP IS A RACIST. ALL TRUMP CARES ABOUT IT ALL TRUMP CARES ABOUT IT HIMSELF. HIMSELF. HE THERE THROW OUT RACIST AND HE THERE THROW OUT RACIST AND BIGOTED STUFF. BIGOTED STUFF. THAT’S ALL HE CARES ABOUT. THAT’S ALL HE CARES ABOUT. I DON’T KNOW IF HE’S A RACIST. I DON’T KNOW IF HE’S A RACIST.>>WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO>>WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW? KNOW?>>HE’S A RACIST, BIGOT,>>HE’S A RACIST, BIGOT, XENOPHOBE, HE’S EVERYTHING, XENOPHOBE, HE’S EVERYTHING, NICOLLE, BECAUSE HE WILL USE NICOLLE, BECAUSE HE WILL USE EVERYTHING TO JUST SIMPLY EVERYTHING TO JUST SIMPLY ADVANCE HIS INTERESTS. ADVANCE HIS INTERESTS.>>I WANT TO GET MY FRIEND DAVID>>I WANT TO GET MY FRIEND DAVID JOLLY IN HERE. JOLLY IN HERE. HE MADE THE DECISION TO LEAVE HE MADE THE DECISION TO LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. AND I JUST WANT HIM TO GET A AND I JUST WANT HIM TO GET A CHANCE TO JUMP IN. CHANCE TO JUMP IN.>>HEY, DAVID.>>HEY, DAVID.>>I GUESS CONGRESSMAN HERE>>I GUESS CONGRESSMAN HERE WOULD BE MY QUESTION FOR YOU, WOULD BE MY QUESTION FOR YOU, AND I WILL JUST ADMIT IT AND I AND I WILL JUST ADMIT IT AND I THINK A LOT OF VIEWERS WILL THINK A LOT OF VIEWERS WILL AGREE WITH ME WHEN I SAY THIS, AGREE WITH ME WHEN I SAY THIS, THANK YOU, JOHN HEILEMANN. THANK YOU, JOHN HEILEMANN. I COME DOWN AND HEILEMANN’S I COME DOWN AND HEILEMANN’S APPROACH TO THIS, I FIND A HARD APPROACH TO THIS, I FIND A HARD TIME ACCEPTING YOU MIGHT PROVIDE TIME ACCEPTING YOU MIGHT PROVIDE REDEMPTION FOR NEVERTHELESS REDEMPTION FOR NEVERTHELESS TRUMP REPUBLICANS BUT THE TRUMP REPUBLICANS BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AT THIS MOMENT. REPUBLICAN PARTY AT THIS MOMENT. THIS IS A CRITICAL MOMENT WE THIS IS A CRITICAL MOMENT WE NEED SOMEBODY TO DRAW STARK NEED SOMEBODY TO DRAW STARK CONTRAST TO DONALD TRUMP. CONTRAST TO DONALD TRUMP. TO YOUR CANDIDACY AND HOW WE TO YOUR CANDIDACY AND HOW WE EVALUATE CANDIDATES, NICOLLE EVALUATE CANDIDATES, NICOLLE ASKED WHY DIDN’T YOU KNOW WHEN ASKED WHY DIDN’T YOU KNOW WHEN HE CAME DOWN THE ELEVATOR AND HE CAME DOWN THE ELEVATOR AND CALLED MEXICANS RAPISTS AND CALLED MEXICANS RAPISTS AND CRIMINALS? CRIMINALS? I THINK ONE OF THE HARD I THINK ONE OF THE HARD CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THOSE OF US REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THOSE OF US WHO HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE, THOSE WHO HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE, THOSE OF US WHO CREATED MUCH MORE OF US WHO CREATED MUCH MORE DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS PRESIDENT DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS PRESIDENT AND THIS PARTY THAN YOU HAVE, WE AND THIS PARTY THAN YOU HAVE, WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE MADE THE KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION AT THE RIGHT RIGHT DECISION AT THE RIGHT TIME. TIME. WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS GONE AND WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS GONE AND EVERY REPUBLICAN THAT REMAINS EVERY REPUBLICAN THAT REMAINS SILENT, AND I’M TALKING ABOUT SILENT, AND I’M TALKING ABOUT PAUL RYAN, MITCH McCONNELL, JEB PAUL RYAN, MITCH McCONNELL, JEB BUSH, ALL OF THOSE ON STAGE, WHO BUSH, ALL OF THOSE ON STAGE, WHO REMAIN SILENT, THAT IS A MOMENT REMAIN SILENT, THAT IS A MOMENT WHERE WE GET TO JUDGE THEIR WHERE WE GET TO JUDGE THEIR DISCERNMENT AND THEIR DISCRETION DISCERNMENT AND THEIR DISCRETION AND THEIR OWN JUDGMENT BECAUSE AND THEIR OWN JUDGMENT BECAUSE IF YOU’RE ASKING TO BE IN THE IF YOU’RE ASKING TO BE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHERE YOUR JUDGMENT OVAL OFFICE WHERE YOUR JUDGMENT HAS TO BE IN A MOMENT’S NOTICE, HAS TO BE IN A MOMENT’S NOTICE, SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN TRUST, HOW DO WE TRUST YOUR CAN TRUST, HOW DO WE TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT IF YOU WEREN’T SAYING JUDGMENT IF YOU WEREN’T SAYING THESE THINGS TWO YEARS AGO AND THESE THINGS TWO YEARS AGO AND JUST SAYING THEM NOW WHEN YOU JUST SAYING THEM NOW WHEN YOU DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT? DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?>>HOLD ON A MINUTE, DAVID.>>HOLD ON A MINUTE, DAVID. THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT TRUMP TWO MONTHS PEOPLE WHO LEFT TRUMP TWO MONTHS AFTER HE GOT ELECTED? AFTER HE GOT ELECTED? OR THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT TRUMP SIX OR THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT TRUMP SIX MONTHS AFTER HE GOT ELECTED? MONTHS AFTER HE GOT ELECTED? OR THE PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO LEFT OR THE PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO LEFT TRUMP AFTER HELSINKI, DO WE JUST TRUMP AFTER HELSINKI, DO WE JUST SAY THEY’RE NOT ON OUR SIDE. SAY THEY’RE NOT ON OUR SIDE. WE DON’T WANT THEIR HELP AND WE DON’T WANT THEIR HELP AND THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T THERE AT THE ESCALATOR, WEREN’T THERE AT THE ESCALATOR, IS THAT WHAT YOU’RE SAYING? IS THAT WHAT YOU’RE SAYING? THAT DOESN’T SEEM FAIR. THAT DOESN’T SEEM FAIR.>>NO.>>NO.>>LET ME SAY THIS AND IT’S ALL>>LET ME SAY THIS AND IT’S ALL YOURS. YOURS.>>SURE.>>SURE.>>IT WOULD SEEM TO ME WE WOULD>>IT WOULD SEEM TO ME WE WOULD WELCOME CONVERTS AT EVERY STAGE WELCOME CONVERTS AT EVERY STAGE ALONG THE WAY IF WE THINK ALONG THE WAY IF WE THINK THEY’RE AGAIN UGENUINE. THEY’RE AGAIN UGENUINE. DAVID, IF YOU DON’T THINK I’M DAVID, IF YOU DON’T THINK I’M GENUINE, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE GENUINE, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE I CAME ACROSS. I CAME ACROSS. JOHN HEILEMANN, IF YOU THINK I’M JOHN HEILEMANN, IF YOU THINK I’M RACIST, IT DOESN’T MATTER IF I RACIST, IT DOESN’T MATTER IF I CHALLENGE TRUMP. CHALLENGE TRUMP. I EITHER CONVINCE YOU THAT I’M I EITHER CONVINCE YOU THAT I’M NOT OR CONVINCE YOU I’M GENUINE NOT OR CONVINCE YOU I’M GENUINE OR NOT BUT THAT’S YOUR CALL. OR NOT BUT THAT’S YOUR CALL.>>GO AHEAD, DAVID.>>GO AHEAD, DAVID.>>CONGRESSMAN TO YOUR POINT,>>CONGRESSMAN TO YOUR POINT, IT’S NOT MY PLACE TO SAY WHETHER IT’S NOT MY PLACE TO SAY WHETHER YOU’RE BEING SINCERE OR NOT. YOU’RE BEING SINCERE OR NOT. I WOULD SAY YOU HAVE A I WOULD SAY YOU HAVE A COMPELLING THERE TO SOMEBODY WHO COMPELLING THERE TO SOMEBODY WHO SAID I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT. SAID I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT. THE QUESTION IS, IS IT THE QUESTION IS, IS IT COMPELLING ENOUGH OF A NARRATIVE COMPELLING ENOUGH OF A NARRATIVE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, OR IS IT UNITED STATES, OR IS IT COMPELLING ENOUGH OF A NARRATIVE COMPELLING ENOUGH OF A NARRATIVE TO SIMPLY SAY WITHIN THE TO SIMPLY SAY WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WE HAVE TO REPUBLICAN PARTY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A FAMILY MEETING AND CHANGE HAVE A FAMILY MEETING AND CHANGE OUR BRAND. OUR BRAND. THE PARTY SUFFERS FROM A BRAND THE PARTY SUFFERS FROM A BRAND CRISIS RIGHT NOW, AND WHOEVER CRISIS RIGHT NOW, AND WHOEVER EMERGES IN THE FUTURE CAN’T HAVE EMERGES IN THE FUTURE CAN’T HAVE THE BAGGAGE YOU SEEM TO HAVE IN THE BAGGAGE YOU SEEM TO HAVE IN THIS MOMENT. THIS MOMENT. I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF VOTERS. FROM A LOT OF VOTERS.>>HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY IN THIS>>HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY IN THIS MOMENT WHO HAD, AS YOU HAVE MOMENT WHO HAD, AS YOU HAVE RIGHTFULLY IDENTIFIED AS SOME RIGHTFULLY IDENTIFIED AS SOME BAGGAGE, AND IS TRYING TO REDEEM BAGGAGE, AND IS TRYING TO REDEEM HIMSELF OR MOVED BEYOND THAT HIMSELF OR MOVED BEYOND THAT BAGGAGE? BAGGAGE? TRUMP’S VOTERS WERE MY VOTERS. TRUMP’S VOTERS WERE MY VOTERS. TRUMP’S VOTERS ARE MY LISTENERS. TRUMP’S VOTERS ARE MY LISTENERS. I MOVED AWAY FROM THEM. I MOVED AWAY FROM THEM. I DON’T KNOW. I DON’T KNOW. IT’S AN INTERESTING — IT’S AN INTERESTING –>>LISTEN — GO AHEAD, DAVID.>>LISTEN — GO AHEAD, DAVID.>>CONGRESSMAN, QUICKLY, ONE>>CONGRESSMAN, QUICKLY, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS GOING TO BE THING I WILL SAY IS GOING TO BE VERY INTRIGUING ABOUT YOUR VERY INTRIGUING ABOUT YOUR CANDIDACY THAT WE NOT SEE FROM CANDIDACY THAT WE NOT SEE FROM BILL WELD, YOU ARE COMING FROM BILL WELD, YOU ARE COMING FROM THE RIGHT. THE RIGHT. I IMAGINE WHEN IT COMES TO THE I IMAGINE WHEN IT COMES TO THE AGREEMENT AND WALL AND OBAMA AGREEMENT AND WALL AND OBAMA CARE, ALL OF THESE OTHER ISSUES, CARE, ALL OF THESE OTHER ISSUES, YOU’RE COMING AT TRUMP FROM THE YOU’RE COMING AT TRUMP FROM THE RIGHT WHERE WELD IS COMING FROM RIGHT WHERE WELD IS COMING FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING.>>YES.>>YES. NICOLLE? NICOLLE?>>I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT TO>>I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT TO GET ON THE RECORD AT THE GET ON THE RECORD AT THE EARLIEST POINT THAT YOU CAN IS EARLIEST POINT THAT YOU CAN IS WHAT ARE YOUR PROOF POINTS TO WHAT ARE YOUR PROOF POINTS TO YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CAUSE? YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CAUSE? I THINK WHAT DAVID IS SPEAKING I THINK WHAT DAVID IS SPEAKING TO IS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO TO IS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO TOOK TRUMP ON WHEN THERE WERE 17 TOOK TRUMP ON WHEN THERE WERE 17 REPUBLICANS RUNNING AND HE WAS REPUBLICANS RUNNING AND HE WAS ONE OF 17. ONE OF 17. IT BECAME MORE DAUNTING AS HE IT BECAME MORE DAUNTING AS HE EMERGED. EMERGED. THE KINDS OF ATTACKS OF PEOPLE THE KINDS OF ATTACKS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ONCE IN THE REPUBLICAN WHO WERE ONCE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GET FROM THE RIGHT FROM PARTY GET FROM THE RIGHT FROM PEOPLE IN POSITIONS LIKE YOURS PEOPLE IN POSITIONS LIKE YOURS ARE VICIOUS. ARE VICIOUS. YOU’RE ABOUT TO GET THEM. YOU’RE ABOUT TO GET THEM. SO LET ME PUT ON MY STRATEGIST SO LET ME PUT ON MY STRATEGIST HAT, I THINK IF YOU REALLY HAT, I THINK IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS CAUSE, AND I BELIEVE IN THIS CAUSE, AND I WILL COME BACK TO THIS, THE WILL COME BACK TO THIS, THE INTELLECTUALLY HONEST PLACE TO INTELLECTUALLY HONEST PLACE TO LAND AFTER PRAYER OR THOUGHT OR LAND AFTER PRAYER OR THOUGHT OR TALK WITH YOUR FAMILY IS SAY I’M TALK WITH YOUR FAMILY IS SAY I’M SO COMMITTED, I WILL SUPPORT SO COMMITTED, I WILL SUPPORT ELIZABETH WARREN OR BERNIE ELIZABETH WARREN OR BERNIE SANDERS. SANDERS. I WORKED FOR GEORGE W. BUSH AND I WORKED FOR GEORGE W. BUSH AND JOHN McCAIN. JOHN McCAIN. THAT ISN’T ABOUT THEIR POLICIES. THAT ISN’T ABOUT THEIR POLICIES. THAT’S ABOUT MY BELIEF ABOUT THAT’S ABOUT MY BELIEF ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. DONALD TRUMP. I GUESS I WOULD ASK IF YOU’RE I GUESS I WOULD ASK IF YOU’RE READY TO SAY TODAY RIGHT NOW READY TO SAY TODAY RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT ELIZABETH THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT ELIZABETH WARREN OR BERNIE SANDERS TO KEEP WARREN OR BERNIE SANDERS TO KEEP DONALD TRUMP FROM BEING DONALD TRUMP FROM BEING RE-ELECTED? RE-ELECTED?>>I’M ALMOST THERE.>>I’M ALMOST THERE. I CAN’T SUPPORT TRUMP. I CAN’T SUPPORT TRUMP. I KNOW YOU WANT A BETTER ANSWER I KNOW YOU WANT A BETTER ANSWER THAN THAT. THAN THAT. FOR TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN IN FOR TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN IN CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO, 95% OF CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO, 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO ME LOVE THE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO ME LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND I CRITICIZE DONALD TRUMP AND I CRITICIZE DONALD TRUMP EVERY DAY. DONALD TRUMP EVERY DAY. I’M NOT COMING TO THIS GAME I’M NOT COMING TO THIS GAME TODAY. TODAY. MAYBE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS A MAYBE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS A FAIRLY AUDACIOUS THING TO DO TO FAIRLY AUDACIOUS THING TO DO TO APOLOGIZE AND TRY TO REDEEM APOLOGIZE AND TRY TO REDEEM MYSELF BUT DAVID, JOHN, NICOLLE, MYSELF BUT DAVID, JOHN, NICOLLE, HOW COME NOBODY ELSE HAS STEPPED HOW COME NOBODY ELSE HAS STEPPED UP TO MAKE THE MORAL CASE? UP TO MAKE THE MORAL CASE?>>THEY’RE GOING TO GET YELLED>>THEY’RE GOING TO GET YELLED AT BY THE THREE OF US. AT BY THE THREE OF US. I HOPE WE CAN KEEP HAVING THIS I HOPE WE CAN KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. CONVERSATION. THERE’S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. THERE’S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. I’M TELLING YOU, IF YOU SORT OF I’M TELLING YOU, IF YOU SORT OF MARSHAL ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, MARSHAL ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, DAVID BROOKS WROTE IN 2017 ABOUT DAVID BROOKS WROTE IN 2017 ABOUT A GROUP OF REPUBLICAN SENATORS A GROUP OF REPUBLICAN SENATORS WITH MEDIEVAL TRUMP BECAUSE HE WITH MEDIEVAL TRUMP BECAUSE HE DISPLAYED EARLY SIGNS OF DISPLAYED EARLY SIGNS OF ALZHEIMER’S. ALZHEIMER’S. IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTING OF IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTING OF THIS TRIP, REPORTING ON THE THIS TRIP, REPORTING ON THE SPEECH, THE RALLY WHERE HE SPEECH, THE RALLY WHERE HE FORGOT WHAT HE SAID. FORGOT WHAT HE SAID. I’M NOT A DOCTOR BUT IF YOU WANT I’M NOT A DOCTOR BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT CASE AND DO THE TO MAKE THAT CASE AND DO THE WORK OF PUTTING TOGETHER ALL OF WORK OF PUTTING TOGETHER ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, IT’S A COMPELLING

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  1. All the people who supported Trump in the beginning and decided that they were going to leave after a couple of months, they are still racist and no we do not accept them back. Like we should have done with the Confederacy when they lost the war we should have never invite them back in, now you Trump Republicans we are going to make you second-class citizens of America. Racist individuals after they've done, their racist stuff they cannot understand why you will not accept them back into the folds. It's like losing your black card once you lose it and people know it you can never get it back. REALTALK

  2. He can't even say if he would support a Democrat if there were a valid candidate. Now you don't seem the light give me a break.

  3. Dems saying Trump is totally unfit will not sway the Almost Trumpers (the Always Trumpers will never be swayed), but people like Joe Walsh, Scaramucci, Kasich…etc "should" — that is if they hammer their message non-stop from now until the 2020 election.

  4. I bet Hillary paid this guy to run against trump.  Trump can't sleep at night because he sees the bushes moving outside and he knows it's Hillary

  5. I don't care for this dude in the least, but on this point ita with him about Trump. Shame there's not more Repubs who are as unintimidated as he who will come forward too.

  6. All a blow-hard like this guy does is present a potential for dividing votes. Crawl back under your rock, Joe. K.A.G. 2020 !

  7. He's a screwball, don't think he's got much to offer. Have to be a patriot and you have to be a businessman this guy is just a politician

  8. Fake News! Corker didn't "retire". He was voted out of office because of his stance on illegals.
    You all lied when you f×cks just said Trump said all illegals are rapists and are bad people. He never said that, you lie.
    BTW, you, joe washedup, I made Trump. My neighbor made Trump. My black friends made Trump. Everyone I know made Trump. You, sir, are a POS.
    Trump can't win? I watch the news snippets from 2016 and love it more and more.

  9. It is a weakness to think you still have a political career after helping to damage Democracy. Thanks for calling out this racist.

  10. Thank GOD someone out there is willing to talk about the outrage… the orange-faced child who is president. A disgusting time in America now. IMPEACH t RUMP NOW !

  11. thank Real Americans like the great mooch who's the real hero that took the first stand without backing down and Joe Walsh

  12. One's ability to recognize flawed decision, self correct and move forward, is a virtue. However, it is not preferable to be this mature to grasp simple morality. Nice that you are coming out now, but couldn't you have given yourself a "heads up"?

  13. I left the GOP because of Trump. And I ain't goin' back. Nor did I vote for Hillary. Trump and Hillary, Twins, neither fit to lead.

  14. I don’t think this guy stands a chance. That being, if he goes around “punching trump in the face”, I’m all for it.

  15. Why do Republicans claim not to be racist after admitting saying racist comments. They're splitting hairs with that thinking. You can't be a little bit pregnant.

  16. It's not enough to say, "ANYBODY but Trump" because the stars and the agendas of the Democrats running for President is not going to get my vote–or for that matter–anybody's vote in REAL America.

  17. this man is so full of BS it does not make any sense he won't vote Democrat but he wants to be the president himself but he don't want Donald Trump in which he created he is so full of BS that is coming out of his ears eyes nose mouth even his fingernails and toenails

  18. Come on guys!!!! You absolutely WANT THE RIGHT TO CHANGE AND FEEL THE BURN of their decision to go to far right and this is how you effing receive him? GEEZUS get a grip. Welcome them into the fold. Be the welcoming party we want you to be. We want every wavering republican to stop being so far right and the first one you come across that is willing to publicly apologize you say "no way, are butts are hurt so we wont accept you as sincere". GEEZUS!!!! THIS attitude is exactly how Trump wins.

  19. He doth protest too much, methinks… This guy suddenly is against trump? What took so long? If he can siphon votes away from trump somehow, that's fine. Otherwise much ado about nothing.

  20. Yes, it IS a weakness not to apologize
    BUT
    being willing to apologize DOES NOT make you competent, Joe Walsh! I've known for DECADES how this FASCIST G.O.Pigshit Republican Party has been going FASCIST. An INCOMPETENT person either was too dim not to know or to FALSE & STILL FALSE!

  21. If Republicans think Americans are gonna be forgive and forget when trump is thrown out and they've done nothing to make that happen, then they're dumber than he is…

  22. if you take cheap shots because you disagree with someone.. then come back with 'an apology when it suits your personal ambitions.. newsflash.. you are just like trump. now please go away

  23. None of the never Trumpers, all liars, this guy is qualified only for the bottom of our shoes. Trump is the BEST leader of our country, period. This guy’s career in anything is done. That this guy would say this after what has been done to our President, this guy’s is just a little, pathetic, liar. A little man.

  24. This guy is not a tea party conservative, he is a lying stealth liberal. He is a liar. A liar. And so are the people hosting him.

  25. You don't redeem your bad deeds as the President of the United States. This guy is a full of crap shyster. I don't trust him and he gives me the creeps.

  26. Brilliant discussion by Nicole
    and John. What the two of you said to Walsh was exactly on point. This is why I love your show.

  27. Redskins is the word for a strip of skin from the top of head to the genitals of a Native person taken by bounty hunters and turned in to US government during Indian wars. Worse than the "N" word.

  28. I appreciate EVERYONE"s honesty, intelligent "clear and concise" "Civil and mature" comments in this panel…including Joe Walsh. NO one was mean or yelling or calling one another nasty names, no throwing "lying accusations" at anyone, the way it would be if it was trump sitting in that chair and not Joe Walsh. Just saying..

  29. The left wants everything to be about image, and Trump's not the best, but on accomplishments he runs circles around everyone. Get specific if you disagree.

  30. Death bed remorse? Didn't hear a peep out of Walsh for the last 3 years, now suddenly he claims to have grown a conscience?

  31. If they are smart they will allow him to take votes from trump then allow the dems to close the deal and bring this country back in the leadership position in the world.

  32. Joe Walsh, I appreciate your apology. Please prove us right to accept it.
    We do need to create a space for those who change their minds or as John puts it, sees the light…
    Please allow this in ALL people, as you and I would (and do) wish it for ourselves.

  33. Big Red Flag here guys!! Walsh is the same slick, oily, smarmy and dishonest 'used car salesman' that trump is. He may be a little smarter and have a larger vocabulary, but he's just trying to cash in on a sinking ship before it's too late…

  34. Yeah, sorry… I don't believe you. This is not about Trump, it's about Joe Walsh preparing himself for post-trump world. The Republicans are not going to just wash this off, they can't. It will stick with them for a long time. The only Republicans I trust are my dad and my cat. That's it.

  35. Bernie's ideas. Spend less than 1 trillion on the military. Provide healthcare and college with 80 Billion of the savings. Enjoy the rest of the savings and reduce the national debt.. Why does that "scare" anyone?

  36. Well how different are you from the rumpt. Why should people have confidence in you?? Walsh did you find a new religion are asking to be saved.

  37. Rather keep trump than vote opposition party. Fool. Same old fart. Same old politics. (Yawns). Reminds me of Jeffrey Epstein to me.

  38. I am not a Christian. I do not think that apologizing for sins is a get-out-of-trouble-free card. He sinned. The Republican Party sinned. Most Republicans sinned. They have damaged people, killed people, ruined lives. They don't get to rule the country because Jesus forgives them.

  39. I think he just is desperately trying to make his apology go through so he can run for office freely. Really!? He calls himself the t rump maker and he wants to run, give me a break !. He will be worse.

  40. If you're currently trying to redeem yourself, maybe you're not currently in a position to run for POTUS?

  41. The show starting now…I'm astonish, how politicians saying awful things about people so easily and they just forget about how cruel they are when they running for a political position… we have to be careful who we can choose to represent us in the country… why vote for a person who can't respect the rest of the people , who cannot be honest or can't stop the tongue when they open the mouth to saying lies about others??

  42. Desperate Democrats. They are actually taking this guy seriously. He's giving them what they want to hear. Dear Democrats, hope this makes you feel better.

  43. Walsh is a despicable racist. Does he think we forgot all the racist statements and tweets by this guy. Don’t be fooled.

  44. Democrats are the real racists. Thet are obsessed with it. Mostly white, always talking about race. They believe black people are incapable of anything without being carried by them.

  45. Hypocrite. You made huge amounts of money lying on the radio and now you are banking on Trump being Impeached.

  46. So you ve got a few black pastors to stand behind you joe walsh…..👀👀 That does not remove the stain of racism from you. Trump also has some black pastors standing behimnd him now and again. He s stil racist.

  47. John Walsh used the lowest racist attack against President Obama and Kamala Harris by explicitly saying that because they were black "the bar was set low." George Stephanopolous pointed this out to him, and let him off too easily. Nicole needed to be much harder on him. Racially demonizing two of the most articulate politicians in America is totally UNACCEPTABLE.

  48. Now you say you're Sorry?!? Well cry us a River, cuz we cried many rivers the past 2 and a half years!!!! Hypocrite….

  49. Don't really like the guy, but it is refreshing to see a republican that dares to believe that he can speak up against trump and still have a political career.

  50. Joe Walsh still don’t get it..The term Redskins is racist the native also was destroyed..there is no different

  51. If he goes viral enough to siphon even 1% of votes away from The Tramp, he Might have a chance at redeeming himself..

  52. I hope the liberals write the history books. The future generations of America are going to see that the rich white Christian conservative AKA Republicans ruined the world and the future. All we want is a clean environment and equallity.

  53. That's all they are gonna say ..apologize for creating trump and think we can trust them nor believe their awful anti worker policies

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