PBS NewsHour Weekend full episode October 26, 2019

PBS NewsHour Weekend full episode October 26, 2019


>>Sreenivasan: ON THIS EDITION
FOR SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26: RISING
WINDS AND FORCED POWER OUTAGES
STOKE NEW FEARS AS CALIFORNIA
WILDFIRES CONTINUE TO BURN; IN
OUR SIGNATURE SEGMENT, HOW MIAMI
IS TACKLING AN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING CRISIS; AND THE BAND
SPOON, STAYING AFLOAT IN A
TRANSFORMING INDUSTRY.
NEXT ON PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND.
FROM THE TISCH WNET STUDIOS AT
LINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK,
HARI SREENIVASAN.
>>Sreenivasan: GOOD EVENING,
AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.
CALIFORNIANS ARE BRACING FOR
WHAT MAY BE DAYS AND NIGHTS OF
POWER OUTAGES AS WINDS WHIP UP
AND WILDFIRES CONTINUE TO BURN.
STARTING THIS AFTERNOON, PACIFIC
GAS AND ELECTRIC BEGAN CUTTING
POWER TO ALMOST ONE MILLION
PEOPLE ACROSS MUCH OF NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA, THE THIRD TIME THIS
MONTH THE UTILITY COMPANY HAS
USED WHAT IT CALLS
“PREVENTATIVE” SHUT-OFFS.
IN THE EVACUATION ZONES,
OFFICIALS ARE CALLING FOR
RESIDENTS TO LEAVE BEFORE THE
POWER GOES OUT.
>>THE DECISIONS THAT PEOPLE
MAKE REGARDING EVACUATIONS
AFFECT THE FIRST RESPONDERS’
LIVES.
AND WE CAN’T ASK YOU ENOUGH–
FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE MUST
HAVE THE PUBLIC EVACUATE.
>>Sreenivasan: IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA, 50,000 PEOPLE IN THE
PATH OF THE KINCADE FIRE NORTH
OF SAN FRANCISCO ARE UNDER
MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS.
THE FIRE IN SONOMA COUNTY WHICH
STARTED LAST WEDNESDAY HAS
BURNED MORE THAN 20,000 ACRES
AND WAS ONLY 10% CONTAINED BY
THIS MORNING.
THE RISK TO THE REGION WILL GROW
TONIGHT WHEN AN ABRUPT WIND
SHIFT IS EXPECTED, WITH WIND
GUSTS REACHING 60-80 MILES PER
HOUR.
>>ALL OF THE MODELS WE RUN ARE
SHOWING WITH VERY HIGH
CONFIDENCE THAT ANY IGNITION
THAT DOES HAPPEN WILL TRAVEL
EXTREMELY FAST WITH ERRATIC FIRE
BEHAVIOR.
AND WE’LL SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR
TO WHAT WE HAD WHEN THIS FIRE
IGNITED.
>>Sreenivasan: IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, FIREFIGHTERS MADE
PROGRESS CONTAINING THE TICK
WILDFIRE.
THAT FIRE HAS BURNED MORE THAN
4,000 ACRES, DESTROYED HOMES AND
FORCED SCHOOLS TO CLOSE
YESTERDAY.
SOME EVACUATION ORDERS WERE
LIFTED IN THE AREA TODAY, BUT
OFFICIALS CAUTION THAT WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO PICK UP TONIGHT.
CONGRESSIONAL IMPEACHMENT
INVESTIGATORS QUESTIONED A HIGH-
RANKING STATE DEPARTMENT
OFFICIAL TODAY IN A RARE
SATURDAY SESSION.
PHILIP REEKER, ACTING ASSISTANT
SECRETARY IN CHARGE OF EUROPEAN
AND EURASIAN AFFAIRS, TESTIFIED
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
REEKER OVERSAW OFFICIALS WHO
INTERACTED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP
AND HIS PERSONAL LAWYER, RUDOLPH
GIULIANI, DURING THE TIME
UKRAINE WAS BEING PRESSED TO
INVESTIGATE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON,
HUNTER BIDEN.
THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
ISSUED A SUBPOENA FOR REEKER’S
TESTIMONY AFTER THE STATE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTED HIM NOT TO
APPEAR.
FOUR MORE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
ARE SCHEDULED FOR DEPOSITIONS
NEXT WEEK.
IN IRAQ, SECURITY FORCES USED
TEAR GAS TO FIGHT PROTESTERS WHO
TRIED TO ENTER BAGHDAD’S HEAVILY
FORTIFIED GREEN ZONE TODAY.
DEMONSTRATORS ATTEMPTED TO
REMOVE BLAST WALLS THAT WERE
BUILT ON A BRIDGE IN CENTRAL
BAGHDAD TO PROTECT THE
GOVERNMENT AREA.
TODAY’S CLASHES CAME JUST ONE
DAY AFTER AT LEAST 42 PEOPLE
WERE KILLED IN RENEWED VIOLENCE
BETWEEN GOVERNMENT FORCES AND
THE LEADERLESS DEMONSTRATORS.
149 PEOPLE WERE KILLED DURING
THE FIRST ROUND OF
DEMONSTRATIONS EARLIER THIS
MONTH.
THE ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTORS
ARE DEMANDING BETTER JOBS AND
SERVICES.
PRESIDENT SEBASTIAN PINERA
CALLED FOR A MAJOR RESHUFFLING
OF HIS CABINET TODAY FOLLOWING
MASS PROTESTS IN CHILE THIS
WEEK.
ONE MILLION PEOPLE TOOK TO THE
STREETS IN SANTIAGO LAST NIGHT,
CALLING FOR ECONOMIC REFORMS.
THE PROTESTS THERE BEGAN MORE
THAN A WEEK AGO AFTER A NOW-
CANCELED INCREASE IN SUBWAY
FARES.
PINERA DECLARED A STATE OF
EMERGENCY ACROSS MUCH OF CHILE
EARLIER THIS WEEK BUT SAID HE
PLANS TO LIFT IT AS SOON AS
TOMORROW.
AT LEAST 17 PEOPLE WERE KILLED
AND AS MANY AS 7,000 HAVE BEEN
ARRESTED SINCE THE PROTESTS
BEGAN.
PROTESTS ALSO CONTINUED LAST
NIGHT IN BOLIVIA AFTER AN
OFFICIAL VOTE TALLY SHOWED
PRESIDENT EVO MORALES RECEIVED
ENOUGH VOTES TO AVOID A RUN-OFF
IN LAST SUNDAY’S ELECTION.
RESIDENTS IN LA PAZ BANGED POTS
AND TOOK TO THE STREETS,
DEMANDING ANOTHER VOTE DESPITE
MORALES DECLARING VICTORY.
THE OFFICIAL COUNT SHOWED
MORALES HAD MORE THAN A TEN-
POINT LEAD OVER CARLOS MESA, A
FORMER PRESIDENT, BUT BOLIVIA’S
SUPREME ELECTORAL TRIBUNAL DID
NOT DECLARE A WINNER.
THE UNITED NATIONS, ALONG WITH
THE U.S., BRAZIL AND ARGENTINA,
ARE DEMANDING A RUN-OFF VOTE
BETWEEN MORALES AND MESA.
A CORRECTION THIS EVENING FOR A
SEGMENT IN OUR CHINA SERIES:
27% OF CHINESE CITIZENS LIVE
UNDER THE POVERTY LINE OF $5.50
PER DAY, ACCORDING TO THE WORLD
BANK, NOT 40% AS ORIGINALLY
STATED IN THE VIDEO.
THE EARLIER NUMBER REFLECTS AN
OLDER FIGURE.
NEWSHOUR REGRETS THE ERROR.
FOR THE LATEST ON THE
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, VISIT
www.pbs.org/newshour.
>>Sreenivasan: MIAMI IS KNOWN
AS A LUXURY DESTINATION, FROM
YACHTS IN THE HARBOR TO A
SKYLINE FILLED WITH HIGH-END
HIGH RISES.
BUT DON’T LET THE GLITZ FOOL
YOU; MANY IN MIAMI CAN BARELY
AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT ALICIA
MENENDEZ REPORTS ON THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SQUEEZE AND
WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO TACKLE
A GROWING CRISIS.
THIS SEGMENT IS PART OF OUR
ONGOING INITIATIVE, “CHASING THE
DREAM: POVERTY AND OPPORTUNITY
IN AMERICA.”
>>Reporter: JUST NORTH OF
DOWNTOWN MIAMI, MANY RESIDENTS
OF THE TRINIDAD AND SUNNYLAND
MOBILE HOME PARKS ARE FACING
EVICTION.
>>(translated): MOST OF THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE ARE LOW-
INCOME PEOPLE.
>>Reporter: LUIS VINDEL HAS
LIVED HERE FOR 22 YEARS.
LIKE MOST RESIDENTS, HE OWNS HIS
MOBILE HOME BUT RENTS THE LAND
BENEATH IT.
WHEN A DEVELOPER BOUGHT THIS
PARK LAST YEAR, IT RAISED THE
RENT ON EACH LOT BETWEEN $250
AND $350, ABOUT A 50% INCREASE.
>>(translated): THAT IS AN
ABUSE, A VIOLENT ABUSE AGAINST
ALL OF US WHO LIVE HERE.
>>Reporter: VINDEL AND SEVERAL
OTHER RESIDENTS SUED THE
LANDLORD, ARGUING THE INCREASE
DOES NOT REPRESENT A FAIR MARKET
RATE.
>>WE’VE HAD SUCCESS WITH
DEFENDING THE EVICTIONS.
>>Reporter: NEJLA CALVO IS A
STAFF ATTORNEY AT LEGAL SERVICES
OF GREATER MIAMI.
SHE REPRESENTS DOZENS OF
SUNNYLAND AND TRINIDAD’S
RESIDENTS.
>>MOBILE HOME PARKS ARE THE
LAST FORM OF NON-SUBSIDIZED
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHAT WE’RE SEEING UNFORTUNATELY
IS THAT THESE MOBILE HOME PARKS,
AS THEY’RE GETTING BOUGHT UP BY
DEVELOPERS AND AS THEY’RE
INCREASING THEIR RENTS OR
CLOSING DOWN FOR REDEVELOPMENT,
THEY’RE NOT… THOSE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNITS ARE NOT BEING
REPLACED.
WE’RE JUST LOSING THAT.
>>Reporter: IT’S NOT JUST
MOBILE HOME PARKS.
MIAMI IS ONE OF THE LEAST
AFFORDABLE CITIES FOR HOUSING IN
THE COUNTRY.
>>INCREASING DENSITY IN SINGLE
FAMILY AREAS.
>>Reporter: ANNIE LORD IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MIAMI
HOMES FOR ALL, A NON-PROFIT
RESEARCH AND POLICY ORGANIZATION
WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>>WE HAVE BOTH A LOW-WAGE
ECONOMY, RIGHT, AND WE ALSO HAVE
HIGH-COST REAL ESTATE.
>>Reporter: IN FACT, MORE THAN
HALF OF HOUSEHOLDS IN MIAMI ARE
CONSIDERED “RENT BURDENED,”
MEANING RESIDENTS SPEND MORE
THAN A THIRD OF THEIR INCOMES ON
RENT.
VERY OFTEN, PEOPLE HEAR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINK
LOW-INCOME, BUT THIS IS AN ISSUE
THAT AFFECTS PEOPLE UP AND DOWN
THE INCOME SCALE.
>>THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.
IT STILL BEARS A LITTLE BIT OF
THAT STIGMA, BUT THE FACT IS
THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT’S
AFFECTING OUR MIDDLE- AND UPPER-
MIDDLE CLASSES, AS WELL.
>>Reporter: MIAMI HOMES FOR ALL
PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON A
REPORT THAT HELPED MIAMI COME UP
WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN.
IT’S ESTIMATED THE CITY NEEDS
50,000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING JUST TO MEET EXISTING
DEMAND, BUT THE REPORT ONLY
PROPOSES CREATING OR RENOVATING
12,000 UNITS BY 2024.
>>IT’S AN EXTREMELY DIRE
PROBLEM.
WE’RE A VICTIM OF OUR SUCCESS.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HERE.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE HERE.
EVERYBODY WANTS A PIECE OF
MIAMI.
>>Reporter: FRANCIS SUAREZ IS
THE MAYOR OF MIAMI.
THERE IS A GOAL OF 12,000 UNITS
BY 2024, BUT YOU SAY YOU NEED
50,000.
IS THAT, THEN, TREATING THIS
LIKE THE CRISIS THAT IT IS?
>>SURE.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO START
SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, 12,000 BY 2024 IS THE
MOST AGGRESSIVE GOAL THE CITY
HAS EVER HAD.
>>Reporter: THE CITY HAS
PLEDGED TO SPEND $100 MILLION
FROM A RECENT BOND TO FUND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, BUT
THE REPUBLICAN MAYOR
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT WILL TAKE
SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO
MAKE A DENT.
ONE PROPOSED SOLUTION IN THE
REPORT IS A TAX ON EMPTY HOMES.
MIAMI HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST
VACANCY RATES IN THE COUNTRY DUE
TO ABSENTEE OWNERS FROM AROUND
THE WORLD WHO BUY PROPERTY HERE,
AS WELL AS THE CITY’S LARGE
SEASONAL “SNOWBIRD” POPULATION.
>>EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE,
IF YOU WILL, RIGHT?
BUT IT’S HARD TO DO A VACANCY
TAX BECAUSE HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT
IT’S VACANT?
AND FRANKLY, TAXING, I’M NOT
SURE TAXING IS A WAY OUT OF A
PROBLEM.
>>Reporter: THE REPORT ALSO
CITES THE NEED TO PRESERVE OLDER
MULTI-FAMILY HOMES, BETTER
UTILIZE PUBLIC LANDS AND CHANGE
ZONING RULES TO ALLOW FOR
GREATER BUILDING DENSITY.
IT ALSO SEES A ROLE FOR PRIVATE
DEVELOPERS TO REDEVELOP AND
EXPAND EXISTING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
IS HAPPENING ABOUT SIX MILES
NORTHWEST OF DOWNTOWN IN A PLACE
CALLED LIBERTY SQUARE.
IT WAS BUILT IN THE 1930s AS ONE
OF THE FIRST SEGREGATED PUBLIC
HOUSING PROJECTS FOR BLACK
PEOPLE IN THE SOUTHEAST.
LOCATED IN THE HEART OF LIBERTY
CITY, THE AREA NOW HAS SOME OF
THE HIGHEST RATES OF GUN
VIOLENCE IN MIAMI.
THESE BOARDED-UP HOMES REFLECT
THE EXODUS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
TODAY, ONLY ABOUT 200 OF THE
ORIGINAL 709 UNITS ARE OCCUPIED
AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS BEING
REBUILT.
BUT THAT WILL SOON CHANGE;
LIBERTY SQUARE IS UNDERGOING A
$300 MILLION REDEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS PHASE ONE OF THE
REVITALIZATION OF LIBERTY
SQUARE.
THIS COMPLEX INCLUDES PUBLIC
HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND
EVEN UNITS AT MARKET RATE.
THE DEVELOPER BELIEVES THIS
MODEL IS ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION
TO THE HOUSING CRISIS.
>>WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
IT’S A TRUE MIXED-INCOME
COMMUNITY, AND, YOU KNOW, THE
UNITS ARE ALL THE SAME.
>>Reporter: ALBERT MILO IS THE
PRESIDENT OF RELATED URBAN, THE
PROJECT’S DEVELOPER.
WHEN IT’S COMPLETED, THE PUBLIC
UNITS, WHICH ARE SUBSIDIZED BY
THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT,
WILL GROW FROM ABOUT 700 TO 750
AND BE INTERMIXED WITH MORE THAN
800 ADDITIONAL UNITS.
THERE WILL ALSO BE RETAIL SPACE
AND A LARGE GROCERY STORE.
WHEN YOU FIRST HEARD ABOUT WHAT
THEY WANTED TO DO IN LIBERTY
SQUARE, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE?
>>THEY LYING.
THEY NOT FITTING TO BUILD
NOTHING.
>>Reporter: DESPITE THAT
INITIAL SKEPTICISM, SHARON
GREGORY SAYS RELATED HAS KEPT UP
ITS END OF THE BARGAIN.
IN JULY, SHE BECAME THE VERY
FIRST PERSON TO MOVE INTO A
RENOVATED UNIT.
SHE’S BEEN A LIBERTY SQUARE
RESIDENT FOR 17 YEARS.
>>LOOK HOW BIG THIS KITCHEN IS!
17 YEARS AND NEVER HAD AN ICE
MAKER.
>>Reporter: EVEN THOUGH IT’S A
NEW UNIT, HER RENT IS THE SAME:
$147 A MONTH.
>>AIN’T THIS BIG?
YOU GET TIRED OF STANDING UP IN
THERE, I SAY I’M GOING TO GET ME
A CHAIR!
>>Reporter: GREGORY
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT LIVING IN A
MIXED-INCOME DEVELOPMENT COULD
BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME EXISTING
RESIDENTS.
>>I SURE HOPE, DON’T NOBODY
COME IN HERE WITH NO ROWDY
CHILDREN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STEPS,
SITTING ON THE STEPS SMOKING
CIGARETTES, SITTING ON THE STEPS
SMOKING WEED.
YOU IN THE WRONG BUILDING, YOU
UNDERSTAND?
THE MAIN THING WHEN PEOPLE MOVE
IN IS RESPECT.
YOU GOT TO RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.
>>OUR APPROACH WAS ALWAYS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN’T COMING
TO THE COMMUNITY, TRYING TO
DICTATE HOW WE FELT THE
REDEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE
APPROACHED.
>>Reporter: BUT RELATED WAS
ALSO INFLUENCED BY LOCAL
COMMUNITY GROUPS.
DANIELLA PIERRE IS THE HOUSING
CHAIRPERSON FOR THE MIAMI-DADE
CHAPTER OF THE N.A.A.C.P.
RELATED HAS COMMITTED THAT EVERY
SINGLE RESIDENT IS GUARANTEED A
UNIT IN THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO FAR, HAVE THEY LIVED UP TO
THAT PROMISE?
>>IN PHASE ONE, THEY HAVE.
AND WHAT’S TO COME, WE’LL HAVE
TO SEE.
>>Reporter: THE CIVIL RIGHTS
ORGANIZATION HELPED NEGOTIATE
THAT GUARANTEE.
PIERRE SAYS SHE’S OPTIMISTIC
ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT SHE IS
WORRIED PEOPLE WILL BE PRICED
OUT AS THE COMMUNITY CHANGES.
AND EVEN DEVELOPER ALBERT MILO
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT GENTRIFICATION
IS INEVITABLE.
>>IT’S A MATTER OF HOW YOU
HANDLE THAT GENTRIFICATION,
RIGHT?
IS IF YOU ARE ABLE TO TAKE THE
COMMUNITY AND HAVE THEM
PARTICIPATE IN THE RECREATION OF
THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, FIRST AND
FOREMOST.
AND THEN, I THINK THE PROJECT IS
A SUCCESS.
>>Reporter: FOR SHARON
GRERGORY, SHE SAYS THIS HAS
TRULY BEEN A LIFE-CHANGING MOVE.
>>I NEVER IN MY LIFE WOULD
IMAGINE LIVING IN A PLACE LIKE
THIS.
I JUST, YOU KNOW… IT JUST, GOD
BLESSED ME.
I STILL CAN’T BELIEVE IT.
>>Reporter: THE SECOND PHASE OF
LIBERTY SQUARE IS NOW UNDER
CONSTRUCTION, STARTING WITH THE
DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING ROW
HOUSES.
BUT, OF COURSE, THIS 1,500-UNIT
DEVELOPMENT IS JUST A TINY
FRACTION OF WHAT MIAMI NEEDS.
ADDING TO THE HOUSING PRESSURE,
MIAMI IS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE
TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
WITH ITS COASTAL PROPERTY
THREATENED BY SEA LEVEL RISE,
THE CITY’S NON-COASTAL AREAS,
LIKE LIBERTY SQUARE AND THE
SUNNYLAND AND TRINIDAD MOBILE
HOME PARKS, HAVE BECOME
PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE TO
DEVELOPERS.
>>AS WE’RE SEEING THE EFFECTS
OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN MIAMI,
DEVELOPERS KEEP LOOKING INLAND
TO SEE POSSIBLE LANDS FOR
REDEVELOPMENT FOR RICHER FOLKS.
BASICALLY, THESE MOBILE HOME
PARKS ARE EVEN MORE VULNERABLE
TO REDEVELOPMENT.
>>Reporter: FOR ITS PART, THE
NEW LANDLORD OF THE MOBILE HOME
PARKS, MIAMI SOAR, SAYS IT
COMPLETED NUMEROUS IMPROVEMENTS
INCLUDING PAVING THE ROADS,
ADDING SECURITY CAMERAS, AND
REMOVING OVER A MILLION POUNDS
OF GARBAGE.
>>I DON’T BELIEVE IT’S ANY ONE
PERSON’S RESPONSIBILITY.
YES, IT’S A TERRIBLE SITUATION.
THIS IS ALL THROUGH THE COUNTRY
THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
SLOWLY DISAPPEARING.
>>Reporter: MARTIN FELDMAN
REPRESENTS MIAMI SOAR IN THE
LAWSUITS WITH TENANTS.
HE SAYS GIVEN THE IMPROVEMENTS
AND THE PARK’S LOCATION, THE
RENT HIKE IS FAIR.
AND IF THE LANDLORD EVER DECIDES
TO REDEVELOP THE LAND, FELDMAN
SAYS THE COMPANY IS COMMITTED TO
FINDING A PLACE FOR CURRENT
TENANTS.
IF THE PARK IS REDEVELOPED,
THOUGH, IN TEN YEARS, WILL THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW STILL
BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE?
>>I DON’T KNOW.
THERE COULD BE MULTIMILLIONAIRES
LIVING IN HERE.
THAT’S JUST SOUTH FLORIDA.
>>Reporter: RISING RENTS LEAVE
RESIDENTS LIKE LUIS VINDEL IN A
PERILOUS POSITION.
HE OWNS HIS MOBILE HOME, BUT
IT’S OLD, TOO FRAGILE, AND TOO
EXPENSIVE TO MOVE ANYWHERE ELSE.
>>(translated): THE SITUATION
IS CRITICAL FOR MANY PEOPLE.
IN MANY TRAILER PARKS, MANY
PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO BECOME
HOMELESS, LIVING ON THE STREETS.
>>Reporter: FOR NOW, VINDEL’S
EVICTION ORDER IS ON HOLD WHILE
THE LAWSUIT IS PENDING.
BUT ACCORDING TO HOUSING
ADVOCATES, WHEN IT COMES TO THE
LARGER CRISIS, WAITING IS
SOMETHING MIAMI SIMPLY CANNOT
DO.
>>IF WE HAVE A MAJOR EVENT,
ECONOMIC OR NATURAL, WE’RE GOING
TO BE IN A VERY SERIOUS
SITUATION.
WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO ARE
UNSHELTERED AND LIVING ON OUR
STREETS.
WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE
THAN THAT.
SO, I’M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THAT
DAY.
I DON’T SEE HOW WE AVOID THAT
UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING REALLY
BIG.
>>Sreenivasan: LIKE SO MANY
INDUSTRIES, THE MUSIC BUSINESS
HAS BEEN DRAMATICALLY
TRANSFORMED BY THE DIGITAL
REVOLUTION.
THE TOP-SELLING ALBUM OF 1999,
THE BACKSTREET BOYS’
“MILLENNIUM,” SOLD MORE THAN
30 MILLION COPIES AROUND THE
WORLD.
LAST YEAR’S NUMBER ONE, “THE
GREATEST SHOWMAN” MOTION PICTURE
CAST RECORDING, SOLD JUST
3.5 MILLION.
WHILE MUSICIANS ARE MAKING FAR
LESS FROM DIRECT SALES OF THEIR
MUSIC, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR
SUCCESSFUL ARTISTS TO MAKE A
LIVING.
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND’S CHRISTOPHER
BOOKER HAS THE STORY.

>>Reporter: EVEN IF YOU HAVE
NOT SET FOOT IN A RECORD STORE
IN 20 YEARS, YOU HAVE INVARIABLY
HEARD THE MUSIC OF SPOON IN
COMMERCIALS…

…ON TELEVISION…

…IN MOVIES…

…OR MAYBE EVEN DURING
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE PETE
BUTTIGIEG’S DEBATE WARM-UP.

FEW BANDS HAVE NAVIGATED THE
PROFOUND DIGITAL DISRUPTION OF
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY QUITE AS WELL
AS SPOON.
THEIR STORY IS A TESTAMENT TO
THE NEW REALITIES OF WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL BAND.
FOUNDED IN 1993 BY SINGER AND
SONGWRITER BRITT DANIEL AND
DRUMMER JIM ENO, SPOON’S STORY
ALMOST STOPPED AS IT WAS
STARTING; THE BAND WAS FAMOUSLY
DROPPED BY ELEKTRA RECORDS IN
1998.
BUT RATHER THAN CALLING IT
QUITS, THEY KEPT GOING,
RECORDING ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT A
LABEL.
>>ONCE A WEEK, I WOULD CALL MY
MANAGER AND LAWYER AND SAY,
“ANYBODY WANT TO PUT OUT THAT
RECORD?”
AND THEY’RE LIKE, “NO.
WHY… WHY DON’T YOU THINK ABOUT
CHANGING THE BAND NAME OR, YOU
KNOW, STARTING A NEW BAND?”
AND SO, IT REALLY PROBABLY MADE
MORE SENSE FOR US TO START OVER.
>>Reporter: BUT, IN HINDSIGHT,
IT DIDN’T.
MERGE RECORDS, AN INDEPENDENT
LABEL BASED IN DURHAM, NORTH
CAROLINA, RELEASED “GIRLS CAN
TELL” IN 2001.
IT SOLD MORE COPIES THAN BOTH
THEIR PREVIOUS RECORDS COMBINED.

WHAT FOLLOWED HAS BEEN A NEAR
20-YEAR RUN OF COMMERCIAL
SUCCESS AND CRITICAL ACCLAIM.
BUT SPOONS’ PATH WAS MARKEDLY
DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF THOSE WHO
HAVE COME BEFORE.
1999, THE YEAR AFTER THE BAND
WAS DROPPED, WAS THE HIGH-WATER
MARK OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY OF
OLD.
ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION, IT MADE
NEARLY $22 BILLION IN RETAIL
REVENUE.
LAST YEAR, IT WAS JUST UNDER
$10 BILLION.
THE STORY IS FAMILIAR BY NOW.
THE ADVENT OF DIGITAL
TECHNOLOGY– EVERYTHING FROM
NAPSTER, iTUNES, SPOTIFY AND
PANDORA– CHANGED THE ECONOMIC
LANDSCAPE OF MUSIC.
>>THE WORD IS OUT THAT THERE’S
NOT REALLY A LOT OF MONEY MADE
ON MAKING RECORDS ANYMORE.
THERE’S MONEY MADE AT THE VERY,
VERY TOP, YOU KNOW?
BUT IT’S NOT… IT’S CERTAINLY
NOT THE SAME THING AS WHEN WE
STARTED.

>>Reporter: RADIO HAS CHANGED,
AS WELL.
CONSOLIDATION AND THE CLOSURE OF
COLLEGE RADIO STATIONS HAVE
DECREASED THE NUMBER OF AVENUES
FOR INDEPENDENT ARTISTS LIKE
SPOON TO MAKE IT ON THE
AIRWAVES.
SO, DANIEL SAYS THE BAND HAD TO
THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT HOW TO
FORGE A CAREER.
>>THERE WAS NOT THAT AVENUE FOR
EXPOSURE, AND WE WEREN’T GETTING
PAID A LOT OF MONEY.
AND SO, SOMEONE WANTED TO GIVE
US $5,000 TO PUT A SONG ON A TV
SHOW, THAT’S… SEEMS LIKE A
GOOD DEAL.
>>Reporter: WHILE SPOON’S
LICENSING LIST IS AS LENGTHY AS
THE END CREDITS OF A FEATURE
FILM, IT’S REFLECTIVE OF A
BROADER SHIFT IN ATTITUDES
TOWARDS LICENSING MUSIC, BUT
IT’S NOT AS IF SPOON FORGED
ENTIRELY NEW GROUND.

THIS RICE KRISPIES JINGLE FROM
THE EARLY ’60s COMES BY WAY OF A
VERY YOUNG ROLLING STONES.
>>♪ RICE KRISPIES! ♪
>>Reporter: STILL, THERE WAS
ONCE A FIERCE DEBATE ABOUT
WHETHER IT WAS OKAY FOR A
SERIOUS MUSICIAN TO LICENSE
THEIR MUSIC THIS WAY.
LOU REED WAS WIDELY CRITICIZED
FOR ALLOWING “WALK ON THE WILD
SIDE” TO BE USED IN THIS
MID-’80s HONDA SCOOTER CAMPAIGN.
>>HEY, DON’T SETTLE FOR
WALKIN’.
>>Reporter: BUT A QUICK DIVE
INTO YOUTUBE REVEALS REED WAS
FAR FROM ALONE, AND MANY MORE
HAVE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER
LICENSED THEIR MUSIC FOR
ADVERTISEMENTS, TELEVISION AND
MOVIES– SOMETHING THAT WAS
FAMOUSLY CRITICIZED BY NEIL
YOUNG IN HIS 1988 SONG, “THIS
NOTE’S FOR YOU”
>>♪ AIN’T SIGNING FOR PEPSI,
AIN’T SIGNING FOR COKE. ♪
>>Reporter: HIS SONG RELEASED
RIGHT AROUND THE TIME GEORGE,
PAUL AND RINGO WERE SUING NIKE
OVER ITS USE OF THE BEATLES’
SONG, “REVOLUTION.”
>>♪
>>Reporter: PAUL McCARTNEY
EXPLAINED HIS POSITION IN THIS
1989 INTERVIEW.
>>WE NEVER DID DO COMMERCIALS
WITH THE BEATLES.
WE HAD LOTS OF BIG OFFERS FROM
SOFT DRINKS COMPANIES, YOU KNOW,
TO DO STUFF, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE
ALWAYS THOUGHT, “NO, IT KIND OF
SPOILS IT, JUST TAKES THAT
LITTLE EDGE OFF IT.”

>>Reporter: THIS FEELING DID
NOT EXTEND TO McCARTNEY’S SOLO
WORK; HE TEAMED UP WITH VISA
JUST A YEAR LATER TO PROMOTE HIS
WORLD TOUR.
AND RECENTLY, HE ALLOWED HIS
SONG “GREAT DAY” TO BE USED IN
AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR A CREDIT
CARD.

>>I’M SORRY, BUT, AS A
FILMMAKER, I HAVE TO FACE THE
TRUTH.

>>Reporter: DANIEL SAYS
DESPITE THE WIDE USE OF SPOON’S
MATERIAL, IT HAS NOT IMPACTED
THE BAND’S APPROACH.
WAS THERE A… AN INITIAL
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE YOUR
MUSIC GOES AND WHAT IT’S
LICENSED TO?
>>OH, YEAH, WE… WE’VE GOT TO
APPROVE EVERY ONE OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, WE DON’T WRITE THE
SONGS FOR THOSE USES.
THE ALBUM STILL MEANS SOMETHING.
IT IS A MOMENT, AND YOU WILL
NEVER BE ABLE TO WRITE SONGS
EXACTLY LIKE YOU DID DURING THAT
MOMENT WHEN THAT ALBUM WAS MADE.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, I WAS
WRITING SONGS TO… TO…
THAT’LL GO OVER WELL IN BARS,
YOU KNOW?
AND, SO, WHEN WE STARTED SPOON,
THAT WAS SORT OF… LIKE, THAT
WAS THE BIG GOAL: GET THAT
WEEKEND GIG AT A BETTER PLACE.

>>Reporter: SPOON SPENT THE
PAST SUMMER ON THE ROAD
SUPPORTING THE RELEASE OF THEIR
GREATEST HITS ALBUM, “EVERYTHING
HITS AT ONCE”– PROOF ENOUGH
THAT IN THE NEW MUSIC ECONOMY,
WHILE MONEY FROM LICENSING IS
NICE, IT’S THE GIGS THAT PAY THE
BILLS.
WHAT ADVICE DO YOU GIVE BANDS
THAT ARE 20 YEARS YOUNGER?
>>EVERY NOW AND THEN, I WILL
GET A… AN ARTIST WHO SAYS,
“HOW DID YOU DO WHAT YOU DO?”
AND I… I USUALLY TELL THEM TO
DO IT FOR YOURSELF, TO DO IT
LOCALLY, TO MAKE… TO MAKE AND
BE IN YOUR OWN SCENE, AND THEN
OTHER THINGS WILL COME TO YOU.

>>THIS IS PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND,
SATURDAY.
>>Sreenivasan: SPOON DID NOT
JUST SPEND THEIR SUMMER ON TOUR.
THEY ALSO MADE A QUICK STOP IN
THEIR HOMETOWN TO MEET WITH SOME
YOUNG CAMPERS TRYING TO FOLLOW
IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS.
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND’S CHRISTOPHER
BOOKER HAS MORE.
>>Reporter: TIME SPENT AT THE
GIRLS ROCK AUSTIN CAMP IN
AUSTIN, TEXAS, IS TIME SPENT
LEARNING TO PLAY THE DRUMS, THE
KEYBOARDS…

…AND AC/DC.

THE WEEK-LONG DAY CAMP FOR
EIGHT- TO 17-YEAR-OLDS OFFERS AN
A-Z EDUCATION IN ROCK ‘N’ ROLL.
THE CAMPERS ARE NOT ONLY ASKED
TO PICK UP INSTRUMENTS BUT
CHALLENGED TO THINK ABOUT THE
BIGGER QUESTIONS THAT SURROUND
THE WORLD OF MUSIC.
WHO ARE THE PEOPLE MAKING MUSIC,
AND HOW CANTHEYADD THEIR
VOICE?
>>♪ FOR ONLY $15 BUCKS! ♪
>>Reporter: TODAY, DURING
LUNCHTIME, THE CAMPERS ARE
GETTING AN INSIDER’S VIEW WITH A
PERFORMANCE BY AUSTIN’S OWN,
SPOON.

AFTER A THREE-SONG SET, THE
CAMPERS WERE INVITED TO ASK THE
BAND SOME QUESTIONS.
>>SO, LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW
WHAT SHOWS YOU SHOULD PLAY?
>>SO, IF IT’S A PLACE WHERE
YOUR FRIENDS HANG OUT, IF IT’S A
PLACE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL SAFE,
THEN THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE
TO DO A SHOW.
THAT’S A GOOD PLACE TO START.
>>Reporter: BRITT DANIEL IS
SPOON’S LEAD SINGER.
WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO A
YOUNG PERSON THAT’S SAYING, “I’M
THINKING ABOUT REALLY MAKING A
GO OF THIS”?
WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM, YES, IT’S
A… IT’S A VIABLE OPTION, OR
WOULD YOU CAUTION THEM?
>>I’D TELL THEM TO FIND THAT
THING THAT YOU’RE OBSESSED WITH
AND JUST DO IT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, AND DO IT BECAUSE IT’S
FUN, WITHOUT TOO MANY OTHER
EXPECTATIONS.

>>Sreenivasan: TOMORROW MARKS
THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE
MASS MURDER AT THE TREE OF LIFE
SYNAGOGUE IN PITTSBURGH.
THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC MEMORIAL
SERVICE AND COMMUNITY EVENTS
HONORING THE 11 VICTIMS.
AND IN OUR SIGNATURE SEGMENT,
NEWSHOUR WEEKEND’S IVETTE
FELICIANO RETURNS TO THE
COMMUNITY TO LEARN HOW IT IS
HEALING AFTER THE DEADLIEST
ANTI-SEMITIC ATTACK IN U.S.
HISTORY.
THAT’S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF
PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND.
I’M HARI SREENIVASAN.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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