CM Punk To WWE UPDATE! WWE Star Tries To QUIT! WWE Raw, Oct. 14, 2019 REVIEW! | WrestleTalk News

CM Punk To WWE UPDATE! WWE Star Tries To QUIT! WWE Raw, Oct. 14, 2019 REVIEW! | WrestleTalk News

We’ve got new Raw tag team champions! The
second part of the Draft is even less surprising
than the first! And WWE just managed to ruin
The Fiend. Again. For like the second time
in nine days.
And there’s also huge news with a WWE star
trying to quit the company, and an update
on CM Punk’s potential return to wrestling!
Click the timestamps in the video description
below to go straight to any of those stories
right now.
I’m Oli Davis – press the thumbs up button,
click the ‘i’ above my head to give your
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But for now, here’s my review of the 14
October episode of Monday Night Raw!
The second half of the latest WWE Draft was
opened by the No. 1 overall pick – with Becky
Lynch appearing on her new brand of Monday
night Raw. At least, I think it’s her new
brand. I genuinely can’t remember if she
was on that or SmackDown before. Wild card!
Despite reportedly knowing Sasha Banks was
still injured after last Sunday’s Hell in
a Cell match, WWE continued to advertise Becky
vs Banks for this episode – classy move – until
Lynch said Sasha couldn’t be there because
she’d beaten her up so much – which inevitably
brought out Charlotte Flair, who’s now a
babyface again.
The two actually had a really nice back and
forth match, which had a near 5 minute run
of very good near falls, and a This is awesome
chant from the crowd. The finish came when
Charlotte was sitting in disbelief after Becky
kicked out of a spear – because Charlotte’s
won so many matches with that move – when
Lynch rolled her up for the victory.
We then got a rundown of the Draft rules for
the night, which seemed more complicated than
a Vince Russo gimmick match.
The most ridiculous of them being that “Tag
teams will count as 1 pick, unless Fox or
USA Network specifically wants to pick 1 superstar
from the team.” Which means the USA Network
are stupid, because they used separate picks
for the team of Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross
on Friday.
Overall, this was a profoundly uninspiring
Draft, mostly just confirming the rosters
we’ve had in recent months – Seth Rollins
to Raw, Brock Lesnar to SmackDown, Charlotte
to Raw, New Day to SmackDown. The only real
surprise was The Fiend to SmackDown announced
last Friday – which itself is very problematic,
more on that later – and Erick Rowan being
moved to Raw with no Luke Harper in sight.
Likely because he’s publicly trying to get
fired all the time.
R-Truth and Carmella were also split up, but
it really means nothing, because Truth will
go everywhere as the forever 24/7 champion.
But while the Draft was tediously executed,
with Stephanie McMahon just reading names
out from a podium with all the gusto of a
Monday morning school register, foundations
were laid for a rather exciting Raw roster.
Or, as I now like to call it, Paul Heyman’s
205 Live support group.
The first of these was Andrade and Zelina
Vega, who got a heelish win over SmackDown’s
And then a soft reboot of the tag division,
where, after months of name changes, squash
matches and then slightly longer matches exclusively
facing The O.C., the Viking DON’T MENTION
THE WAR EXPERIENCE Raiders actually got properly
over with the crowd, beating Dolph Ziggler
and Robert Roode to become the new Raw tag
team champions.
Heyman’s fingerprints were all over this,
with big moves starting the match, more big
moves in the match, and then all the big moves
to end the match. WWE have finally figured
out how to get the crowd into the Vikings
– and an intense backstage promo afterwards
where they referenced winning the IWGP, ROH
and NXT tag belts popped this jabroni mark.
Ziggler and Roode were later drafted to SmackDown,
but the real losers here are The O.C., who
had the tag titles taken off them for absolutely
no reason after SummerSlam.
Another foundation of Heyman’s new Raw appears
to be Aleister Black, who was confirmed for
the brand, and then got a strong victory over
Eric Young with his new Dark Ritual submission
finisher. I’m all for a new submission move,
but the Black Mass is one of the most over
moves in the company. He really should be
winning with that.
Further building Raw’s tag division, The
O.C. awesomely started the Street Profits’
first feud with a backstage beat down.
Ricochet then defeated the also drafted to
Raw Shelton Benjamin. Is that still a gimmick?
What happened to that? Later on, Ricochet
was added to Team Hogan for Crown Jewel because
some of Hogan’s best friends are superheroes.
Unfortunately not all Paul Heyman is good.
The Rusev, Lana and Bobby Lashley storyline
continued with Bobby giving Lana a ‘deep’
massage in a spa. Which is a reference to
But I know your secret, Bobby Lashley. You’re
not thinking about Lana at all. You’re thinking
about those three beautiful sisters of yours,
aren’t you Bobby. You like that, Bobby?
Your three beautiful sisters?
Tyson Fury and Braun Strowman fought inanimate
objects instead of each other for their Crown
Jewel contract signing. Strowman gave a table
these hands, and Fury beat up a pen. The humanity!
Heyman’s 205 Live support group picks continued
next with the very exciting drafting of Buddy
Murphy to Raw, where he beat Cedric Alexander
in a slapping 5 minute match.
The commentary team then ran down the Crown
Jewel card, which now includes possibly the
most ridiculously titled match in wrestling
history: The Largest Tag Team Turmoil Match
To Determine The World Cup For The Best Tag
Team In The World. That’s 18 words long,
and has the words ‘World’ and ‘Tag Team’
in there twice. I’m going to say it again
just to let this ridiculousness seep in: The
Largest Tag Team Turmoil Match To Determine
The World Cup For The Best Tag Team In The
World. WWE has now become a parody of itself.
The Kabuki Warriors then faced Natalya and
a mystery partner in the wrestling main event.
Given its positioning and how limp the Draft
has been so far, I foolishly thought this
could’ve been Ronda Rousey’s return to
WWE. Instead it was her blood feud opponent
for the last month, Lacey Evans. Presumably
because they’re both blonde.
So barely six months into her proper main
roster run, the obviously heel gimmick Evans
is now a babyface with no reason or context
behind it. And all the Kairi Sane spinning
backfists in the world aren’t going to make
me forget that.
The Kabuki Warriors are excellent, but this
match never clicked because nobody is really
that into Natalya, and they’re even less
into the idea of Evans as a babyface. Asuka
picked up the win.
The main story running through the night,
however, was Seth Rollins going Fiend Hunting
– which he said he was going to do at the
start of the night, but we saw nothing of
him until the end of the show, where he broke
into the Firefly Fun House, beat up Bray Wyatt
and literally burnt it down as the live crowd
heavily booed everything because Seth Rollins
isn’t cool.
This is absolute s*** for several reasons.
This ruins any reading that the Fun House
is entirely within Bray’s damaged psyche,
as Rollins was able to just walk through a
door into it.
How did Seth find the Firefly Fun House set?
If this is reality, which everything totally
suggests it was, why were sound effects still
playing when Seth beat up Bray? And why was
Bray’s laughter playing over the burning
set at the end.
WWE are telling the story that Seth is the
babyface descending into madness. It’s not
working, because the crowd are booing him
with go-away heat.
That’s also making Bray Wyatt get booed.
Earlier in the night, a Falls Count Anywhere
match for the Universal title between Seth
and The Fiend was announced for Crown Jewel.
Given that the Fiend has been drafted to SmackDown,
where Brock Lesnar already has the WWE title,
Bray likely ain’t winning. And given the
Hell in a Cell finish, their Falls Count Anywhere
match will probably end in a double countout.
There are positives – like Seth burning down
the Fun House fully unleashing the Fiend version
of Bray. With the idea that the Fun House
was the only thing holding that full evilness
But really the damage was done at Hell in
a Cell, and now WWE are scrambling to come
up with a way to fix Bray’s character. And
in their scrambling, they’ve misunderstood
one of the fundamental parts of Wyatt’s
genius inventions. He’s not a supernatural
character. The brilliance is in the vagueness
over what is real and what isn’t. Up until
now, almost everything can be explained in
reality, with Bray masterminding events like
a psychotic tormentor from a horror movie.
But this angle stripped away any of that nuance,
and we descended into Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate
Warrior territory, or, more aptly, Vince McMahon
misunderstanding the original Bray Wyatt gimmick
as a supernatural being instead of the cult
leader he actually was.
Mark my words, we’ll have a Firefly Fun
House of Horrors match before the year’s
This did set up a really exciting Raw roster
going forward, and the wrestling was very
entertaining. But the execution of the Draft
concept was woefully dull, and WWE have taken
yet another significant misstep with their
most popular gimmick. This week’s Raw is
And now over to Laurie with the news!
Thanks Oli, great review. Shame about the
Fiend though eh… and the Funhouse burning
down… I’m sort of past angry about this
and now just deeply depressed…
Anyway, it’s not like this is the only terrible
story WWE have been telling recently. Ain’t
that right Mike Kanellis?
Because yesterday on Twitter Mike revealed
that he had asked WWE if they would allow
him to cuck off and work elsewhere. Give the
man some release! Because Maria probably isn’t
hey-yo! Kayfabe-wise.
Accompanying this was the now traditional
statement typed and screenshotted from notes:
“I am only 34 years old and feel I have
way to much left in the tank. Working 1 day
a week is not going to cut it for me. I came
to WWE to work and that opportunity does not
exist right now.”
And that’s fair enough, the company barely
had room in their storylines for him to be
married to his actual wife.
Kanellis also said that he no longer wants
his daughter to seem him come home “defeated,
sad and angry” and with questions about
her parentage?
There were rumours that both Kanellis’ had
asked for their releases earlier this year
which they vehemently denied but it looks
like this current storyline has proven to
be the final straw.9
We have to wait to see whether WWE grant this
release, as they didn’t give it to Luke
Harper who also asked to be let go after Wrestlemania.
But that didn’t stop Kanellis firing off
some parting shots, or awkward staying shots
that you have to deal with every day when
you go into work and avoid making a cup of
tea at the same time as them, depending on
the outcome.
Right in his sights was newly minted NXT Cruiserweight
Champion Lio Rush, Mike wrote in a now deleted
“You won 2 matches. Chill out. There’s
an entire roster of Cruiserweights that we’re
grinding and working their ass off for our
Brand, while you were sitting at home for
bad behavior. Let’s not act like you weren’t
gift-wrapped the cruiserweight championship.”
To which Lio responded:
“You’re right, I was home. Reflecting
on my past and how i can get better. Getting
back on a positive road to become a champion
literally and figuratively. Spending time
with my children that are actually MINE. I
get your anger…trust me. Win a match 1st.
Maybe we can talk later.”
Now I can’t tell if this is a real fight
or not. It’s a deleted tweet so that’s
like you got in trouble for being too real
right? But then Lio’s like, who’s the
daddy? Win a match 1st, like the outcomes
aren’t scripted. Do they know in which realm
they’re having this twitter war? So confusing.
Also confusing is CM Punk’s current relationship
with WWE.
He’s auditioned for a hosting role on a
Fox show about WWE, said that he’s open
to a working relationship, which Triple H
has echoed, saying he’d also be open to
a work-based relationship, but we all knew
that because Stephanie.
And now the mystery continues with this odd
little bit of news: CM Punk’s stock on ProWrestlingTees
has disappeared.
All of the Punk t-shirts and merch have been
removed from the website and all that is on
sale is a CM Punk Sucks tee with the header
‘he once crashed the ProWrestlingTess website.
Stop chanting his name at live events. CM
Punk sucks now.”
As with any and all news related to Punk this
could mean that WWE return is closer than
ever and removing his merchandise from a competing
store certainly seems like a sign. Doesn’t
Or maybe they just ran out of stock?
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100 thoughts to “CM Punk To WWE UPDATE! WWE Star Tries To QUIT! WWE Raw, Oct. 14, 2019 REVIEW! | WrestleTalk News”

  1. OLI: What Did You Think Of Seth Rollins Burning Down The Firefly Fun House? Tell me how bad it is in the comments.
    WWE Star Quits?! – 10:26 / Kanellis Shoots On Lio Rush?! – 11:35 / CM Punk to WWE Update! – 13:02

  2. I ve been waiting for Asuka with face paint !!

    Thanks to AEW, Asuka n Kairi got the title n main event match on raw hahaha thanks Riho !!

    Out of nowhere Lacey drafted to smackdown but appear on raw again 🙄
    Lets just hope this is the last time

  3. It's weird that Seth Rollins found the funhouse, since Abby mentioned it's a limbo, but I guess it's like maybe Seth learned how to go there when the fiend dragged him under the ring? I like that Bray actually looked devastated as Rollins was destroying the set tho. Only way for this to end well is if Seth gets squashed and the funhouse is completely restored

  4. They didnt ruin the fiend, they are doing it the right way this time, Seth will get booed and bray will get cheered(Why are you doin this to my Seth?)
    And he will probably win the title.

  5. I cannot wait to see crown jewel Saudi money showdown on Halloween Thursday…. And then Friday night smackdown….. Stars are gonna be tired and wrestling rubbish matches as per

  6. I'm glad Seth burned down the Firefly Funhouse. It's sucked for weeks. Almost as bad as Seth. Bray Wyatt was one of the greatest characters in the history of television, not just wrestling. Now he's a gimmick that will never have longevity. That's right all you short sighted Fiend dick suckers. The Fiend is a limited time gimmick.

  7. I think the reason we weren't surprised by the Draft is the wild card because we literally used to see all of em on Raw & SmackDown

  8. Vince just doesn't like anyone getting over a gimmick that he hasn't created, Rusev day, Woken Matt Hardy, now the Fiend .

  9. People "omg the firefly fun house is so awesome it's the highlight of Raw.
    WWE "we've decided to have Seth literally "burn it down" why would you do that to funhouse Bray.

  10. Best part of the draft was looking at the war rooms that was hilarious, it was like WWE went out & found people on the street
    & told them look we need people to act as an executive in a board room & we'll pay you.

  11. Man WWE really wants us to see Seth as a badass. The problem is that he's not cool. Seth has become Roman. The Fiend's momentum and character has literally gone up in flames.

  12. Oli a good reason for WWE to push Lacey Evans as a face check out her up up down down Superstar savepoint interview. I know I will be cheering for her no matter what because she's a legit badass.

  13. I thought Bray was best with Woke Matt Hardy. And why soft reboot Black when he was already great. I also hate the Soap Opera Lana stuff and Carmela has come a long way but better with R-Truth. Mike Kannelis never had a good push.. they spent forever just showing their love then showing their hate for each other with little wrestling.

  14. I’m not surprised about the fiend thing, this is the exact reason I refused to get invested in the fiend to begin with, people thought I was being overly negative but now people are beyond pissed and I’m still indifferent

  15. Oli I am glad hat you are not a serial killer. While your soft spoken voice is creepy i cant help but be lulled by it

  16. To me it seems that they are turning Seth to heel and Bray to either face or anti-face when Seth burned the firefly funhouse. Even when we have the draft it still looks like the wrestlers will still end up on both shows.

  17. So question…doesn't Mike Bennett have a history in ROH with the Undisputed Era?? Wouldn't that be a great program in NXT with Fergal Divett there now??
    I am not very knowledgeable on ROH is why I am asking.

  18. Wait… the money earned from CM Punk shirt is going to CM Punk. Which means CM purposely is trolling the fans?

  19. I honestly think cm Punk is now considering AEW because why would he leave the only Merch on pro wrestling tees CM Punk sucks to me that indicates he is ending his name created in WWE and is coming under a new name in AEW kinda like Cody said about we the people chant, dead and burried, hasn’t phil Brooks just burried the name cm Punk

  20. I think the wrestling this week was brilliant (ignoring the nothing match pitting KW vs Blonde and Boring). Ricochet vs Benjamin was good, anything with Black in it is phenomenal, Buddy Murphy vs Cedrick Alexander honestly belonged on a PPV if it went a bit longer; the main problem was their character work and story. Everything seems stale and stagnant and any attempt to diversify their story is horrendous (see also Gargano and Ciampa main roster push). I feel like the stories should be carefully crafted and engaging not just to Vince, but also to the audience. Stop trying to make us pay attention to how good the action in the ring is, that’s not the hard part. The hard part is getting us to care.

  21. Wow, ok, first of all, I don't think you really know anything about Bray's character or the old He started off like a cult leader in FCW, transitioned that to NXT where he came to become a supernatural possessed cult leader possessed by the demon Samael. (do your damn research) Secondly, The Fiend is a supernatural character, everything that is going on with it since day one has had supernatural elements to it. like I said, do more research…lol Please.

  22. New
    RAW POORER !!!

  23. Just saying, I think the "big" draft change is Lesnar to Raw which means Lesnar brings WWE title to Raw. Wyatt wins Universal title from Rollins bringing it to Smackdown. So it can kinda be a "shocking" win. They will just keep hush about the trade until after the PPV.

  24. Does anybody remember TNA doing that storyline first with Scott Steiner and Bobby Lashley and his wife now WWE is doing it with Bobby Lashley and Rusev and Lana

  25. The funhouse angle had to end eventually, otherwise it would have just gotten stale. This however, was not the way to do it. I feel sorry for Bray, he weaves these intricate angles only to eventually be foiled by, presumably, creative and/or Vince.

  26. uhhhh sorry to point this out but a falls count anywhere match can't end in a double count out because what are you counting them out of? but I agree, shit WWE is doing these days is stupid, I wonder if it's because Vince is getting old and senile.

  27. I love watching these videos to see how WWE is constantly circling the drain. It's sad that the company I loved since I was 5 needs to be put down.

  28. I wouldn’t be surprised if the fiend vs Seth Rollins to end in a double count out. WWE is going downhill and well smh…. then Vince blames his wrestlers for bad ratings.

  29. Cm punk absolutely flopped in ufc, couldn’t beat a camera man 🤣 cm punk crawling back to start 🤔 I’m sure wwe will ruin him, now hhh and heyman runnin the show🤣 I gave up on wwe years ago💯

  30. Seth Rollins Burning Down the Firefly Funhouse is just a way for Vince McMahon to say to the fans oh you like this Let Me Burn It Down!

  31. Now that "Drake Maverick" was in the draft, does that mean he will be an active wrestler more? Other then the 24/7 championship chasing.

  32. wrrdtletalk should be detectives especially the way the way you deciphered that whole cm punk t shirt debacle. you should work for mystery inc

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