Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism

Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism


♪ ♪>>Martha: NEW “WALL STREET JOURNAL” POLL SHOWS WHAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT AND AMERICA IS CHANGING DRAMATICALLY. PATRIOTISM, BELIEF IN GOD, AND HAVING CHILDREN ALL THE RATE OF FAR LOWER IN IMPORTANCE THAN THEY DID JUST 20 YEARS AGO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT GRAPHIC. IT RELIGION, FOR EXAMPLE, AT 30%. IT WAS AT 67% FOR PEOPLE IN THE EIGHT RANGE 55-91 WHEN THEY DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA? BECAUSE IT COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT. JOINING ME NOW, BEN SHAPIRO, EDITOR IN CHIEF OF DailyWire.com AND AUTHOR OF “THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.” GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT. WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS SAY TO YOU?>>THEY SAY A LOT OF THE COMMON SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND PHILOSOPHIES AROUND WHICH THE COUNTRIES WAS FORMED AND HAS CONTINUED TO POSSESS ARE DISSOLVING. IF YOU GET RID OF PATRIOTISM, AND INNATE BELIEF THAT THE COUNTRY AND THE PRINCIPLES UPON IT WAS FOUNDED, ARE WONDERFUL, YOU GET RID OF RELIGION, WHICH IS THE MAIN SOCIAL INSTITUTION THAT HAS BEEN UPHOLDING A FREE SOCIETY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF HUNDRED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THEN YOU GET RID OF EVEN A CARE FOR THE FUTURE, MEANING PEOPLE DON’T CARE ABOUT PARENTING OR HAVING CHILDREN AS MUCH. THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE TIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BIND US TOGETHER OTHER THAN WATCHING THE SUPER BOWL ONCE A YEAR TOGETHER?>>Martha: GOOD QUESTION. LET’S BREAK DOWN EACH ONE OF THEM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PATRIOTISM, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THE DECLINE IN THAT TO? BECAUSE THEY’RE FUN TWO STORIES IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD. ONE IS THAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON ETERNALLY GOOD, TRUE AND GOOD PRETZELS. WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS LIVED UP TO THOSE PORTABLES BUT THE STORY OF AMERICA IS TO FULFILL THOSE PENCILS AND THE TRIUMPH OVER WHAT THE ODDS AND INNER DEMONS AS WELL. IF THAT’S STORY NUMBER ONE. STORY NUMBER TWO IS THAT AMERICA WAS ROOTED FUNDAMENTALLY IN EVIL DOMINIC BIGOTRY, HOMOPHOBIA. ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE RIPE OF THESE THINGS, SO WHY WOULD YOU BE PATRIOTIC ABOUT INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE SO THOROUGHLY CORRUPT? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT LATTER NARRATIVE IS WINNING THE DAYS AND THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE SAYING WITH YOUNGER BOATS.>>Martha: LIKE THE BETO O’ROURKE CAMPAIGN THAT YOU JUST ENCAPSULATED. LET’S TALK ABOUT RELIGION FOR A MOMENT HERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME — I REMEMBER THE ME GENERATION IN WHICH PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS SORT OF A PASSING PHASE BUT IT SEEMS TO BECOME A WAY OF LIFE NOW AND WHEN ME IS AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING, I DON’T THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GO OUT OF YOURSELF AND ASK, YOU KNOW, GOD TO SAVE YOUR SOUL OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES SO I DON’T SEE HOW YOU PUT THAT GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE MOST PEOPLE ARE ULTIMATELY DISSATISFIED WITH THAT LIFE.>>I THINK THAT’S RIGHT. IT RELIGION IS ABOUT FULFILLING DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE, FULFILLING DUTY TO GOD, THE SAME POLL SHOWS THAT A DISPROPORTIONATE — DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF YOUNG PEOPLE SEE SELF-FULFILLMENT AS A TOP GOAL. THOSE TWO ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT. I THINK THE PEOPLE EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO FIND THAT THE HEDONISTIC SELF-FULFILLING ATTEMPT TO PLEASE YOURSELF, YOUR SUBJECTIVE PERCEPTIONS IS NOT GOING TO BE AS FULFILLING. THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING BEYOND THEMSELVES. I THINK THERE HUNGRY FOR THAT NOW, IS LEADING TO A LOT OF DEPRESSION.>>Martha: LIFTED UP THE TOP VALUES CONSIDERED MOST IMPORTANT THAT BEN WAS JUST REFERRING TO. HARD WORK IS THE ONLY THING THAT CONTINUES TO RATE VERY HIGH OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS THAT THEY’VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS. TOLERANCE FOR OTHERS. WE TALK A LOT IN SOCIETY ABOUT TOLERANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING TOLERANT OF OTHER PEOPLE’S LIFESTYLES AND ALL OF THAT. THAT’S A VERY HIGH VALUE, PARTICULARLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. IS IT NECESSARILY A VALUE THAT YOU THINK IS A VIRTUE WORTH STRIVING FOR?>>I THINK THAT BY TOLERATING OTHER PEOPLE WEANING TOLERATING PEOPLE IN A FREE SOCIETY DOING WHAT THEY’RE DOING SO LONG AS THEY DON’T HURT OTHERS, OF COURSE THAT’S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR, BUT I THINK YOUNG PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT WHEN THEY SAY TOLERANCE. I DON’T THINK A LOT OF YOUNG FOLKS MEAN I’M GOING TO TOLERATE VIEWPOINTS I DON’T LIKE. I THINK THAT WHAT THEY MEAN IS IF YOU JUDGE ME IN ANY WAY YOU’RE BEING INTOLERANT BECAUSE I’M NOT JUDGING YOU. EXCEPT IF YOU’RE JUDGMENTAL IN WHICH CASE I JUDGE WHEN I’M INTOLERANT. TOLERANCE ITSELF IS NOT A VALUE. TOLERANCE IS A STRATEGY TO USE WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR IN A FREE SOCIETY AND IT SEEMS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ESPOUSING A STRATEGY ABOUT THE NATURAL VALUE.>>Martha: BEFORE I LET YOU GO, THE LAST ONE, HAVING CHILDREN I THINK IS KIND OF LINKED TO THE OTHER ONE — LINKED TO EVERYTHING BEING ME CENTERED. HAVING KIDS, IT’S A SACRIFICE IN SOME WAYS. IT’S A JOY, AND ENORMOUS JOY, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE OF YOURSELF TO SOMEONE ELSE.>>IT’S EXPENSIVE, IT’S DIFFICULT, A GIANT PAIN IN THE DASH IT’S THE MOST FULFILLING THING YOU WILL EVER DO BUT WHY WOULD YOU EXACTLY WALK THROUGH THE STORMS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE OCCASIONAL ROSE? IT’S VERY DIFFICULT AND THE FACT IS YOU HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING GUNNED YOURSELF BEFORE

10 thoughts to “Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism”

  1. How about discussing the wealth inequality numbers? Or the number of homeless people? Or maybe how much money is spent on the military industrial complex?

  2. Yes because if you dont love Jesus, raise 5 kids and turn a blind eye to the decline of this country, you are an awful human being

  3. its usually patriotic people that join the military. I fear that in the near future their will not be enough patriotic people to fill the ranks of our armed forces to keep china and Russia at bay. It will not be long before the old proverbial enemy will be at the gates.

  4. PATRIOTISM YOU SAY WELL A PEOPLE FROM AN OCEAN AWAY ESTABLISH A SPARTAN STYLE REPUBLIC ON STOLEN LAND YOU KNOW COLONIALS NOT NATIVE AND WE SHOULD HAVE REPECT FOR THEM WOW WHAT A MYTH BUBBLE BEN LIVES IN  FREEDOM HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AMERIKKKAN EXTORTION RACKET

  5. man seeing conservatives running scared and trying to cope with the fact that they're backwards ideology is slowly but surely dying out is pure gold

  6. Speaking for myself and countless others, self-fullfillment means bringing whatever knowledge/tools that I have to help eradicate injustice and leave the world better off than I found it. Making the list — Ben's world view. How intolerant of me..😄

  7. I'm not a patriot for America. I live in the state of Hawaiʻi, and it used to be its own nation until it was illegally annexed in 1898. As a result, Hawaiian culture and language was heavily suppressed. It's only because of cultural rejuvenation in the 70s that Hawaiian culture is growing today. As for the continental US, a similar situation applies. Native American cultures and languages are dying out, and American culture is overtaking. Many of those tribes aren't even rejuvenating their cultures like Hawaiʻi has been doing for the past 4 decades.

    But anyway, I'd say belief in God is far more important than any other value. Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved. However, I am not suggesting that Christianity should be enforced in America. The Bible never says to speead Christianity by the sword nor does it say to oppress non-Christians.

  8. Being committed to something beyond yourself is lost these days…… All people (especially young people) do not want to deal with that. Good luck america!

  9. Not one time did I hear constitution my duty as a patriot is to the constitution all politicians have violated it

    When governments take away citizens rights it’s citizens constitutional duty to take away governments right to govern

    You ask why they are pussies and are actually scared to actually be patriotic or a patriot citizens know if they are patriots it means that they might just have to live a dangerous freedom they as citizens today are nothing but peaceful slaves they love the peaceful slavery more than the freedom granted to them sad but true

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